TMNT Talkback: Episode 4.25 (26): "The Ninja Tribunal" (Spoilers)

Screw you 4Kids! Screw you for messing up what will likely be one of best storylines of this show. You stupid A**holes! Is selling new "futuristic" toys so important that you had to destroy the momentum of a well written show?

Hey toy merchants, there were 9 new characters introduced in today's episode. The 4 Ninja Tribunal guys, the 4 other ninjas, and those mysterious wood ninjas. You can get your toy profits from these new characters while keeping the fans happy. Is that so difficult? :confused:

Now we have to wait for a DVD to see the rest of this storyline. As we know from previous experience, the DVDs are a disaster so don't expect much. They'll probaly release the 13 episode lost season 1 episode a time over 13 different DVDs.

This is a shame and could very well mark the end of this otherwise magnificient TMNT series. All to sell more toys and "reboot" the series (Spiderman Unlimited anyone?). A series that was progressing so well that a reboot wasn't remotely needed.

As for the episode itself, it was great. I love this storyline and I wish I could see it to its conclusion. I want to know who the real Shredder is and exactly what he is capable of. Just how "evil" is this dude anyway? Sadly, we may never know. :shrug:
 
Two notes:

First, I also wondered why the push for the new "Fast Forward" toys when the number of them seems equal to the ones for this arc (especially when I am sure there will be some toy set for the turtles' "Ninja Tribunal" arc).

Don't forget that the Ninja Tribunal should also include a fifth member (note the absent throne in this episode), which may or may not belong to the real Shredder. If so, then there is at least one more figure, that of the fifth member, and possibly another figure, that of the real (or the upcoming new) Shredder.

Plus, this arc has to include characters related to the Ancient One (another figure) and everything we saw with him. I really wish they would make toys for nearly ALL of the characters, including the twin giants and the ghosts that fought Leo in "The Ancient One." Heck, look at how many figures we got for "Battle Nexus." There were numerous competitors, yet the most we have are the turtles, the Daimyo, the Ultimate Ninja, Drako, Butterfly Swords, Traximus, Usagi, Gen, and the Dark Assassin. There are still numerous other figures to make from THAT line before moving onto the other ones.

Second, the etymology of "tribunal" relates to the word "tribe." Yeah, I thought it meant "three" as well, especially because we only saw the eyes of three members at the end of Yoshi's origin episode. So much for capitalizing on the coolness of "tri-."
 
I thought this ep was very good, not to par with last year's "Exodus" but still good. It had a cliff-hanger like season 1, leaving us demanding more (well...we're always demanding more, but you know what I mean).

I, like many here, am very pissed at 4Kids for mucking things up with the show. Nice way to treat your loyal veiwers to the only good show you have:
  1. First you mess up the dvds by having the eps out of order and mixed up.
  2. Then you, for some bizzare unknown reason, show season 4 out-of-order.
  3. You skip an episode of season 4.
  4. Then, because you want to sell more toys, tell the TMNT show's crew that you want to skip season 5 in favor of what was planned for season 6.
ARG!

Even though I'm annoyed that we're being screwed over with the real season 5, I'm not going to hold it against the season we will be getting (Flash Forward).

We were going to get this season anyway, but as season 6 instead of season 5, it was something the team had planned.

I have faith in the writers, they've given us 4 (and a half) unbelievably amazing seasons of this kick-ass show. I don't think, despite the problems 4Kids has given them, that they're going to start crapping out now.

I look forward to "Flash Forward"...I just wish we had it when we were supposed to.

I think that 4Kids, by making this poor move, may have screwed the show over. Because they skipped a season, people will be severly confused about what's going on (unless they have the "lost season" dvd).

Non-fans will probably see this upcoming season as it's jump-the-shark moment, even though in reality it is not.

A lot of fans are already hateful towards this new season, and don't want to give it a chance, because it's not the original season 5.

It was season 6, it was planned, it won't be bad!
 
Well this episode itself was good, but as others have said it was a lead-in to a larger story arc, so it can't really be judged on its own merit yet.

I want the *real* Season 5 a.k.a. TMNT in Japan and the "True" Shredder storyline, not Cody Jones brings the TMNT 99 years into the future storyline. :/

Heh, I knew Bishop/Baxter would be done for awhile. When will we see them again? I also have to wonder where the Foot Mystics went, unless those Shredders were the Foot Mystics.

Also, those mysterious figures the Ancient One was talking to was indeed these Shredder tribunal people, so that loose end was "kinda" tied up.

I take it a lot of people will be confused come this September.
 
yeah, most of know that Fast Forward was originally planned as the 6th season
What irks us is that the true 5th season was cut in HALF, from 26 to 13 and dubbed "Lost". So far I'm not sure exactly how far along in production of the true 5th season was before it was pushed to the back burner for FF.

Were they still in the process of animating S5 before they "stopped the presses"? Did they know of the bump ahead of producing S5, therefore forcing the creators to carefully select which stories got animated?

My biggest concern is that the overseas & writing team had the entire 26 ep run plotted out but only got to finish production on half leaving loose ends that would've been resolved in the remaining half of the season.

has anyone working on the show or Laird commented on the structure of the Lost Season?
 
Most listings were never updated to show new episodes of the original series started today, but 4K!ds started broadcasting this morning my suspicions: Fast Forward will air at 9:30, and The Lost Episodes will air at 10 AM.
 
I find it amusing how they consider this episode to be one of the "Lost Episodes." Apparently they misplaced it between the first time they aired it and now.
 
Turtles (and friends). Listen to me. You are fighting wooden opponents. You are surrounded by sources of fire. Do the math.

...yeah, never mind, go ahead and get whooped, plot goes on and all that... :shrug:
 
If that happened, they would've heard about it in 2105. Which means when the turtles return, the Purple Dragons' days are numbered.
 
What?! Why would they animate it too violent to the point that they canned it?

Anyway, is it true that there is a completely new series starting in the Fall that Laird and gang were told they would have nothing to do with?
 
The season in the fall is still under the same writers and Laird has to approve the episode ideas before they produce them.

Season 7 is going to take place right after the last episode of Fast Forward. According to info we'll still see some FF characters as regulars in the following season too.
 
There is a new season starting in fall. But Laird and gang as just involved in it as they always have been. For one thing the show was not accepted until 4kids Laird/mirage and Playmates finally came to an agreement for the new series season.
 
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