TMNT 2K3....Cancelled?

Thank you. I agree with you completely. I know that 4Kids has done some wrong things in the past, by wrong I mean bad business decisions, but they actually make an effort to make a decent block of shows for their Saturday morning blocks. Even with the random new schedule for the CW4Kids, it's still way better than what Kids' WB and Toonami had been putting out for their last few years. Yes, I said Toonami too.

Maybe it's just me and partly because of being tired, but I honestly am tired of all of the bashing for 4Kids for what they did in the past. My goodness, the ones who just continue to bring it up, not just here but in other places on the Internet, act like they committed murder or something for just making bad business decisions and providing questionably bad dubs of anime. I don't think that, if this is true, cancelling a show that has over a hundred and fifty episodes under its belt is something to get that angry at them about. I usually don't get that annoyed by it, but I've had a long day. It probably also helps how I honestly don't care about how close dub is to the Japanese version to begin with.

I honestly think that this is just a rumor now. Most of the people more in charge of the series haven't heard anything about it. They're still working on this season for goodness shake. It might be just that it hasn't been renewed for a new season yet, which does seem understandable since this season isn't even close to being done yet. There could be a chance that it is true, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it if that does turn out to be the case.
 
I think the better word is, TMNT hasn't been renewed.

It hasn't been outright cancelled but as of now 4kids hasn't ordered any more episodes.

So for all intents and purposes, this is still the last season until 4kids announces otherwise.
 
Well, I haven't. I myself only know 2 people outside of this forum (not including family members) that really know of this show, which has been on TV since 2003, actually exists/existed. That, and I only met them a few months ago. Of course they think it's cool, but it's only 2 people.

As soon as I mention Ninja Turtles, I start hearing someone singing the classic Cartoon theme, then I tell them a new one is on TV and... well, they're stunned. All I get is "there is?" and "since when?"

It's been that way for years. I pretty much don't know anyone who actually knew this new show existed.

Of course they do ask questions, but all I get is "I loved Ninja Turtles!" as in... 2K3 what?

They all knew about the movie that came out in 2007 when I brought it up though, so clearly there was enough exposure there. That's what I mean by the TV show wasn't being marketed well-enough. I mean, the movie wouldn't even have been possible without the new series airing over the last few years, yet no one who don't actually pay close attention to this new series actually knows that.
 
Same here, I've never actually met anyone who knows about the 2k3 series, they always think of the original which sucks but it seems to me like it's popular with kids and I guess that's good enough.

Now on the issue of it being canceled while it seems to be false I don't think I'd be too sad as long as it got a good ending, it's lasted pretty long and it's almost always been enjoyable. Anyway this franchise is so profitable I doubt this would be the last we'd see of TMNT.
 
...but the original was a phenomenon in a way the 2K3 series could never hope to be. There's a reason the original series will always be remembered. It was huge. I cant think of any other kids show (maybe Pokemon) in the past twenty years that was as big as the original 1987 TMNT series. Yeah the show wasn't fantastic, but the marketing push was unreal. I lived through it. If you weren't a Ninja Turtle fan you were nothing. You had to own the toys. You had to own the video games, and the cereal and the comics. You had to see the movie.

Despite it's longevity the 2K3 series never seemed to reach even a fraction of the original show's awareness. I think that has a lot to do with how much competition there is now, even just as far as action cartoon go. In the late 1980s, TMNT was one of the only games in town, and it was milked for all it was worth.
 
The original cartoon is still fun too, I own Seasons 1-6 on DVD (Season 7 is coming this fall) and for all its cheesiness and wacky plots, the show is just good fun to watch.

Yeah, some might find it too silly now, but I still love the show and the cheesy factor actually helped to make it more enjoyable. Its like the writers took wacky plots from old sci-fi movies and made them into episodes, good times.
 
You're probably right, I was born 3 years before TMNT ended and yet I had even heard about it before the 2k3 show so obviously it had to be big but I still think it's kinda sad that no one besides kids have heard of it. You'd think more people would know about it if the original TMNT was so popular.
 
I thought that you mentioned that most shows don't get renewed until after November sweeps. That could very well be the case here for TMNT. There's also the chance that it isn't, but that's why I wouldn't get so worried about this rumor until someone at 4Kids confirms or denies it.



You do make some good points. Part of the reason why I don't remember the 80s series wasn't born by the time it started. I do remember watching the three live-action movies, which I actually have on video still, a few clips from some of the episodes and I definitely remember playing with my brother's TMNT action figures, mostly Leo as like a samurai or something like that. That's mainly why when I think of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, I either think of the movies or of the 2K3 series.
 
The first I knew of the TMNT realm was by seeing ads for the E&L comics in a window of Comics & Comix in downtown Oakland, Middle California. I remember well the 1987 series-I was 19 when it debuted. And I became a fan-viewed it until the end of the 1994/5 CBS season. The animation was fallapart, but I tought it out; the stories kept me hooked. I remember one screen talkback moment I had. One time, either Shredder or Krang, I can't recall, referred to the TMNT as "amphibians". I yelled back "They're REPTILES, you...."

The marketing push, too, is well remembered, but I largely avoided it. I do remember reading Archie Comics' Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Adventures in stores, the digests initially. And does anyone remember Barbara Walters interviewing the TMNT?

I decided to pass on Ninja Turtles:The Next Mutation. When I read that a new TMNT animated series was coming, I could hardly wait. I remember how it was hyped: "The days of 'Cowabunga!' are over!" Boy, were they. The stories were serious, character designs were angularized and finely wrought;a topnotch animation house was employed. and, being a Man Of Black, I must say this: it was a joy to me to,at last, see Baxter Stockman depicted as Black, as he was in the Mirage comics. Just once, I'd like to see the TMNT go past their teenage years, and be depicted being 18-49, and also of middle/old+age in 2D animation.
 
I would definitely have preferred that to "Fast Forward", which seems to have turned quite a lot of the not so enormous fanbase off. (including those 2 other people that I mentioned were the only ones that I knew who knew this show existed).

When I really think about it, I really wish that was direction that they had gone in if it would mean avoiding it. Make them grow up a bit more. After seeing how the characters were portrayed in SAINW (an episode that I find to be somewhat overated, as spectacular as it was *looks over shoulders to see if anyone saw him type that*), I've just been waiting to see how the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles would be if they became just The Ninja Turtles.

It would have been cool if you asked me... or at least it wouldn't have been like Fast Forward, which most people here already knew was going to fail. 99 years was WAY too big of a leap.

The only show to pull that off well was Batman Beyond, and it was only 40 years (later changed to 50 after some careful, yet still slightly inconsistent, modifications). Did they really think they were going to be able to play that kind of game, and then double it?

Not in the TMNT universe. Poor execution on an idea that should never even have been acted upon to begin with.
 
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