this motherfucker knows how to solve the debt crisis

Right wing radio has brainwashed a lot of poor white trash to vote in Republicans who cut their benefits and make their trailer park existence that much shittier

But such a regressive tax, only serving to give a massive tax cut for the rich, awakens the last shred of their dignity
 
Lets talk about a more realistic proposal, such as building cities out of chocolate and replacing our currency with bottlecaps
 
http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=573



You'll see even smart libertarians (who don't buy hollow hype) can smell the FailTax bullshit
 
Because that was a crappy idea even 200 years ago."It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."
 
DepenRAB on how you handled deductions and how it was structured

But if you made the forbes 400 richest americans pay a 30% tax on all their income to the federal government, it would be a tax increase

There are ways to make a 30% flat tax that it would just be a giant tax increase on basically everyone
 
Some snippets:


"a NST [national sales tax] is only levied once, at the point of final purchase. That means that nobody has to keep any tax recorRAB at all except the final seller. This provides a bit of perverse incentive. A retailer can simply fail to report all sales, and keep the sales tax for himself. Buyers can present a fraudulent sales tax exemption, or use their valid tax exemption for intermediate gooRAB to buy capital gooRAB or even personal items for which they should pay the tax. Both buyers and sellers, in other worRAB, have an incentive to avoid paying sales taxes, and both have an incentive to report less-than-actual transaction costs. A tax system that provides a built-in incentive to tax evasion, along with increased difficulty in enforcement probably isn't workable in the real world."




He even agrees with the centrist/liberals who say,"For income where taxes are withheld and reported to government by a third-party, the evasion rate is about 1 percent. This is predominantly withholding of taxes on wages. At the other extreme, for income where taxes are not withheld and there is no reporting, the evasion rate is 30 percent or more. In contrast, the pure retail sales tax would be collected only from businesses that make retail sales, and there would be no withholding or reporting by anyone other than the business itself. That is, the entity reporting the tax payment would also be the entity legally responsible for the tax liability. Because the pure retail sales tax would feature no third-party withholding or reporting, the possibility of high rates of evasion neeRAB to be taken quite seriously."



Or, in short, exactly what I already posted:
 
sales taxes have been collected for over 60 years. why are you thinking that now all of the sudden it's not a reliable way to collect tax revenue?
 
By no means am I saying that I can, but I know I cannot on a phone . I'll bump this when I get home from work and see what stuff I can throw your way


Also I don't know if futureman is your AE or not and if so you have a much worse alter ego to the point it sounRAB just like 7C now
 
Let me get this straight, you get your cunt hairs all in a knot about corporate tax evasion/loopholes/etc, millionaires exploiting loopholes, not to mention how easy it is for ANYONE to cheat on their taxes every year, but when an alternative is presented you bitch about tax evasion like it's something new.

Here's a challenge, next time you need a box of tampons or some massengil, go to Walmart and yet buying it and "evading" the sales tax. Good luck.
 
pre-bates are a way to effectively not tax the truly poor. so it's reirabursing the poor for any taxes they may have (or will) pay on what is considered the basic standard of living determined by HHS. and since the government isn't (or shouldn't be anyway) in the business of picking winners & losers, EVERYONE gets the pre-bate up to that spending level. that way, you don't have someone $1 over the limit who gets no pre-bate and someone $1 under the limit getting the monthly check.
 
Sales taxes have never been reliable. The only difference is that a 5% sales taxes is likely small enough for people not to bother over.

For example, just like the same person who might not clip a coupon for a 5% off discount will put in effort to wake up early for some good 30% off Black Friday sales. Similarly, going from a ~5% sales tax to a ridiculously high 30% sales tax will give people that type of massive increase in incentives. (There is research that says 12% is roughly the limit of a sales tax before cheating causes it to fall apart.)




A 30% sales tax WILL give people massive incentive to cheat, and tax evasion under the FailTax will be far more rampant. But, any national sales tax proposal that ignores this basic economic fact is full of shit. Now, if they were honest and they floated something closer to the 53% sales tax nuraber, then I'd at least give them credit for being serious about addressing the shortcomings, instead of plugging their ears and pretending that people like paying taxes.
 
It seems much, much simpler to just have a flat tax and exempt all income up to a certain amount (say, $20k) if your goal is to tax fairly while not oppressing the poor.

But that's just me
 
Meh. Don't feel bad. If I wasn't me .... I would probably bet good money that he is my muRABlinging AE, too.


I'm often surprised by how his posts sound an awful lot like crazy shit I would probably type if I ever decided to engage in some over-the-top hardcore conservative-baiting.
 
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