This is the thread for the "liberals" to explain how tax cuts = spending

This is the thread for the "liberals" to explain how tax cuts = spending

No one is going to challenge this? Come on! Where is the conservative answer to this? Anyone?
 
This is the thread for the "liberals" to explain how tax cuts = spending

id be much more willing to pay higher taxes ONCE the out of control spending is brought to a halt and some severe changes were made to put us on the right track

until then ill happily keep my money while you spend us into oblivion
 
This is the thread for the "liberals" to explain how tax cuts = spending

Leftists are essentially socialist in orientation. They assume that all wealth is owned by the government, so they consider a tax cut equivalent to the government "giving" money to a "recipient."

In reality, the left disregarRAB and undermines the foundation of civilization: property rights.
 
This is the thread for the "liberals" to explain how tax cuts = spending

The main difference is that instead of rewarding everyone, those programs only rewarded the corrupt and the incompetent.
 
This is the thread for the "liberals" to explain how tax cuts = spending

When referring to the extreme left, you are right on. MOST of the left (the non-vocal) don't honestly feel that way. Most feel that they would prefer taxes to be lower for them (no one LIKES to pay taxes). However, most also feel that they have an obligation to do so and are willing to make that sacrifice to keep an economy in check. Most would also be in favor of spending cuts btw.
 
This is the thread for the "liberals" to explain how tax cuts = spending

If tax cuts are a cost why don't people who post "bush tax cut costs xxx trillion " ever post a picture with our total revenue - average tax rate.

So if bob earns $100 and the tax rate was 20% ( $20 tax ) and then bush lowered it to an 10% rate ( $10 tax) you all would say this is a $10 cost or an addition the the deficit. Yet NO ONE has shown a pretty graph explaining how the past government has failed to collect the additional $80 from beginning due to past governments lowering our tax rate from it's highest point.


To clarify. There have been tons and tons of tax cuts, why Is bush'es the only one illustrated as a cost?
 
This is the thread for the "liberals" to explain how tax cuts = spending

"I don't like analogies. Not unless they equate the government with a household, foreign aid with biblical fishing, gay marriage with bestiality and/or pedophilia, reality with cliche, et cetera..."
 
This is the thread for the "liberals" to explain how tax cuts = spending

Spending increases under the Bush administration were about 10% (allthatshit) and 90% federal departmental bloat and entitlements... you know, the stuff that conservatives weren't very happy about while Republicans (there is a difference) were doing it.

Good effort though
 
This is the thread for the "liberals" to explain how tax cuts = spending

Your whole argument there is based on the idea that the federal government has an inherent right to the people's money -- that whatever it would like to take for some pragmatic purpose, it can and should take.

There are two problems with this. Firstly, no... just, no. Secondly, the government has been extremely irresponsible with the money it has already taken from the people, wasting it on pointless, inefficient, or outright destructive policies rather than things the country really does need. This makes the proposition of giving them even more resources to waste one of throwing good money after bad.
 
This is the thread for the "liberals" to explain how tax cuts = spending

No, I have no illusions that the money belongs to the government. It does not. I also have no illusions that the tax code tenRAB to play favorites (via loopholes or subsidies) to various industries/organizations/etc... NOWHERE have I EVER advocated that the money "belongs" to the government.

Loopholes = Alternate way to subsidize. Only difference is they don't collect it up front only to return it later.



Firstly, the problem is your understanding of what I was getting at.

Secondly, I agree with everything you said after the word "Secondly" was used in your post.
 
This is the thread for the "liberals" to explain how tax cuts = spending

Bush crash = 3.6T in debt through lost revenue

Bush tax cuts = 3 trillion (GOP Congress)
Bush wars = 1.4 trillion (GOP Congress)
Bush Big Farm bills = 400b (GOP Congress)
Bush Rx plan = 300b (GOP Congress)
Bush increased security, veterans benefits, discretionary approved by GOP Congress = 1.7 trillion
Bush stimulus = 200b

=

$10 trillion of the $14 trillion we owe is from Bush, $3 trillion is from Social Security, $1 trillion is from Obama

DERP DERP BLAME OBAMA DERP DERP
 
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