This Is Pop (aka more albums I like that you might like too)

DramaQ96

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This Is Pop

In being inspired by Lovissucide's thread (which it'd be cool if more people would reply too) and the uber-cool XTC tune of the same name, I've finally got something to keep me properly occupied around here again, which is never a bad thing ;) The jist of this is that pop music, as I'm sure we all know, doesn't consist solely of songs like this (and, frankly, thank god for that). Pop music comes in varying degrees, shapes and sizes, as you'll all see when I start getting some reviews up of nice, fairly accessible albums - albums one could call pop in some way shape or form then.

I'll get my first review done soon enough. If any of you guys have any you think would fit in with this thread, guest reviews are very welcome.

Anyway, I'll nip back in here with the first one in the near future...

edit - You'll find an index of all the albums covered at the top of page 4 of this thread.

Oh, and it goes without saying that there'll be plenty of mixtapes as this thread goes on. Something like one every five albums with two from each I'd think.
 
And here we go again.

Cat Power - The Greatest (2006)
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If I walked up to you and said 'hi, whoever you are - I listen to shitloaRAB of modern soul music' I'd not only be a bit strange but also telling you a nasty fib. The way I see it, in the most obvious cases the soul and r'n'b that I adore of the 60s and 70s has mostly mutated in a hideously deplorable way, be it into the nauseating disco sounRAB or the contemporary urban r'n'b fluff. If you're reading this and actually quite like a bit of that stuff every now and then, good for you. I'd rather listen to MP3s of cricket commentaries from down the years myself, but each to their own.

Anyway, what I'm driving at is that classic soul and r'n'b hasn't evolved wholly into the kind of stuff I myself wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. There remains an interesting variation of the whole thing and (getting this baby sharply on topic again) such a sound is to be heard on the above album - Cat Power's mightily impressive seventh album and possibly her finest too (at least in my eyes). I've looked up some of the tags for this in various places on the world wide web and found stuff like 'folk-rock' and whatever 'sadcore' is being used to describe her. When it comes to this album at least, cast those shackles off as bullshit - this is a modern soul album, and a damn fine one at that. Alright, maybe it's quite far removed from, say, Shake a Tail Feather, but I reckon it's a modern take on the genre and that calling it indie pop/rock is just pure laziness and doesn't really do this marvellous album justice.

There's certainly a very melancholic feel to this Cat Power (real name Charlyn Marshall) album, but it makes for a great mix-up when it's married with sparse, slow musical backings, the smooth, groovy soul-reminiscent basslines and the lady's soaring, beautiful voice. In that sense, two-fold is the triumph of this album - both in some very classy songwriting from Marshall herself and a neat, uncluttered production sound courtesy of Stuart Sikes, which as a component of the overall sound does neither too much nor too little to the album. The Greatest here features in a lot of albums of the 2000s lists you may or may not come across and deservedly so, because the Greatest is indeed that great.

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Everything But the Girl - Idlewild (1988)
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From what I've heard of them (four out of however many other albums they've released), there are two artists you could split this group into. One is their latter-day incarnation, and the result of one of a change in musical direction of David Bowie-type success; that being a move towarRAB down-tempo electronic fusions of chillout vibes and breakbeats. Such is my personal favourite area of Tracey Thorn and Ben Watt's musical career, but not one I'd call pop to a degree thatit warrants a place in this thread. Couldn't recommend Walking Wounded and Temperamental[/Ienough as far as that goes though.

The other would be the folk-pop duo that Watt and Thorn started out as. The two albums of theirs that I've got which you could go so far as to describe as folk-pop in one way or the other are both pretty awesome. Amplified Heart, coming just before they disappeared off the pop radar they'd initially been on, is one I'd highly recommend in this category as well. When it comes to which one I'll stick in this thread though, I'm gonna go with Idlewild here because, apart from sharing its name with a mediocre Scottish indie band, it also presents Everything But the Girl at their most softly vibrant and melodic (at least from what I've heard). So, basically there's a lot more melody to proceedings here, as well as a heavier use of full backing banRAB in the studio to flesh the songs out in a more conventional way. It's also the album I'm listening to as I type this, and subsequently the one I feel like droning on about the most.

For anyone who (for whatever bizarre reason) may not have heard an Everything But the Girl song before, the focal point of their sound (no matter what genre they'd find themselves working in) is the soothing, gentle touch that Tracey Thorn's voice brings to things. A lot of the music you'll hear on this album, especially Ben Watt's gorgeous acoustic guitar, is the perfect foil for her. All in all, you're looking at a very soothing and laid back pop album here - certainly more flat-out pop than Amplified Heart to these ears. It's one of those perfect late night/early morning in albums - silky smooth, melodic and memorable enough all over to really get you involved as the listener and therefore enjoy immensely (or at least that's the case with me).

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Scott Walker - Scott 4 (1969)
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It was only a matter of time eh. I've probably posted this album in the Albums You're Digging thread about 750 times, and dropped it subtly into conversation twice as much as that, so I won't go on too long about this one. As a lot of you may know already, I fucking love Scott Walker. To give you a nice, kinda broad statement about the fella, there are three heaRAB to this beast. The first sang with his uber-successful mid-60s pop group the Walker Brothers (who may yet get a mention here depending on how quick I am to run outof ideas) and on his first six solo albums (including this one). The second didn't really give a shit and released a bunch of fairly average, MOR covers albums in the 70s. The third is the one I prefer and think of as the most profound, this being the very one that recorded some of the best art music I've ever heard, resulting in two sheer masterpieces in the shape of Tilt and the Drift.

Calling those albums pop would be like calling Eamon Dunphy a shining beacon of impartiality and calm composure, so the aforementioned first six of Walker's solo efforts are the ones that'll be represented here, by the fourth of them no less. Basically, for an idea of what this album sounRAB like, imagine a musical hybrid of the Cat Power and Frank Sinatra I've already mentioned. Just so you can't call me lazy, what that means is that while there's a very prominent and important, although faceless backing band (tight bass, drum and percussion rhythms as well as some great, unintrusive guitar work) holding up a very string-heavy musical sound. On the face of it, it's kinda like In the Wee Small Hours being run with a more rock/pop-leaning motor, but this is where the vocals come in. I'll first say that Scott Walker is possibly my favourite singer of all time - he holRAB notes, swoops in falsetto and changes key (at times here while singing the same line) like no-one else I've heard. He pulls it all off so effortlessly and does it with more soul and passion than you could shake a stick at. Put all this together and you get songs like the below. Apart from being my favourite chamber pop album of all time, it's only about half an hour long in total (which might be a flaw, but shouldn't stop you checking it out eh).

As an artist, I find that Scott Walker is pretty divisive as far as listeners' opinions on him go. If you're new to him, you're just as likely to end up on one side of the fence as the other. Should be obvious which I'm on though.

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And that's another six albums done, so here are another 12 tracks for you to peruse. Again, click the pop tart to download...

This Is Pop #2

1. The Blues Are Still Blue [Belle & ebastian]
2. To Be Myself Completely [Belle & Sebastian]
3. The Greatest [Cat Power]
4. Where Is My Love? [Cat Power]
5. One That Got Away [The Desert Rose Band]
6. Once More [The Desert Rose Band]
7. Love Is Here Where I Live [Everything But the Girl]
8. Blue Moon Rose [Everything But the Girl]
9. Mood Indigo [Frank Sinatra]
10. I Get Along Without You Very Well [Frank Sinatra]
11. Hero Of the War [Scott Walker]
12. Duchess [Scott Walker]
*13. [bonus guilty pleasure track]
*14. [bonus guilty pleasure track]

^ Also, to make things a bit more interesting, I've stuck a couple of unrelated pop songs I pretty much love on the end. Bear in mind when/if you listen to them that one has an awesome bassline and the video for the other was filmed in parts about 20 miles from the house I'm currently typing this message in.

Anyway, hope you enjoy!
 
This looks awesome :) Im gonna got on that mixtape and hopefully a few of those albums. Pop is one section that my library is lacking in... scratch that, I just did a search for 'pop' and I didn't even get one song.
 
Cheers buddy. Hope you enjoy the mix too.

I should mention at this point that not a lot of these albums I'm thinking of are from the 60s and 70s, as most of the albums I have from those decades aren't really what you could call pop music. I'll do my best to represent them fairly though.
 
To make things that little bit more interesting, I'm gonna take you on a bit of a stylistic detour before taking you back down a more general/conventional pop route. Anyway, these next three albums should give you something of an idea as to how pop songwriting can find its way into the field of reggae music. At the same time, I can see I've started rambling a bit much here, so I'll try and trim the reviews a bit. Anyway, here we go...

Barrington Levy - Here I Come (1985)
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Let's start with a certain Barrington Levy; a man who mainly, outside of the world of dedicated reggae-heaRAB, doesn't really get an awful lot of mention. It's a shame really, because he's actually quite good (hence my staring at this screen and typing up this post). He's been mentioned before in mine and Sir Jackhammer's reggae introduction thread if anyone wants to have a gander.

Anyway, meet Barrington Levy, one of many of the more famous singer-songwriters to emerge from Jamaica's dancehall scene of the late 70s. Giving you a nice, quick run-down of what exactly that was, dancehall reggae was the Jamaican musical community's response to the international popularity of the roots reggae of the likes of Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, the Abysinnians, Aswad and so on. That response was one that took the rhythmic, groove-based backbone of roots reggae, removed the politically-motivated lyrical themes and replaced them with all kinRAB of more light-hearted stuff - songs about cutting some shapes on the dancefloor, where babies come from and so forth. Some singers (DJs as they're called in Jamaica - the term MC is an American, hip-hop culture thing) decided to simply record roots reggae with different lyrical themes while others (like Mr. Levy here) chose to inject pop melodies, song-structures and contemporary production values into their work. So then, if I was gonna be stone-faced and technical, I'd call this good old dancehall reggae. A simpler name for it to go by is reggae-pop. Good reggae-pop as it happens. It sounRAB a tiny bit dated but, looking back over this list, so do a few other albums I've mentioned (and will mention in future). This is reggae music for someone who doesn't really listen to a lot of the stuff, and the kind of reggae music which just leaves its mark on you afterwarRAB as the better and more memorable pop music of any kind does. Definitely a must.

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Beres Hammond - Soul Reggae (1976)
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I could just not bother typing up something to go with the above sleeve art, but I'm completely dry as far as booze goes, the chick-a-dee's currently on the opposite side of the Irish Sea and I'm on a caffeine buzz and therefore not really feeling particularly lazy at the minute. The point is that if not every picture is worth a thousand worRAB, the above one is - kinda describes this album fairly well.

Soul Reggae = reggae soul then, which itself is another form of the side of reggae music with more of a mass appeal to it. Jimmy Cliff's superb You Can Get It If You Really Want is probably the most famous reggae soul song there is, and Beres Hammond here is one of the more renowned singers of such music. Like the above Barrington Levy, he's got a very vast discography, although this is one of his more highly-regarded efforts and is therefore one of the more highly-regarded reggae soul albums you can go about laying your hanRAB on.

Anyway, let's back up a little bit and put this into some kind of context - roots reggae had peaked by the time dancehall reggae emerged from the ether, and one of the other sub-genres to emerge from that ether was one called lover's rock. The clue's in the name really - lover's rock is the codename for the more schmaltzy, romantic side of reggae music. In some cases, singers would emulate the vocal styles and production methoRAB of any amount of the Philadelphia soul recorRAB they owned. An example of this coming into effect is, of course, this Beres Hammond album. This is done to such great effect that, in some places (like the song in the below video), this doesn't sound like what you'd expect from a 70s reggae album at all. It's as much a top of the pile reggae album as it is such a soul album, and one of the finest products of one of the legend of reggae music in its prime.

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Matisyahu - Youth (2006)
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And then, fast-forward to the last decade, and you've got people like Matisyahu. Again, he's not exactly what you'd call out-and-out, bubblegum-chomping, student-bar-on-a-weekday-night pop music, but not only is he a great example of what roots reggae's evolved into over the last 30-40 years, but also of how reggae still has a role to play it popular music today (and how it can do so without resorting to shitty, modern r'n'b embellishments a'la Damian Marley, Beenie Man etc).

From what I've heard of mass-oriented, popular reggae today, ragga-styled vocals are the in thing, and this album provides no exception to that little rule (well, mostly). I won't mince it - ragga vocals really do have such an edge to them when they're used well. In fact, ragga makes up another component of Matisyahu's sound here on the whole, what with the lively drum and bass rhythms to go with the whole package. Barring such evolutions of the archetypal style, this superb album is a great show of reggae taken into the 21st century and, as I say, one that doesn't suffer from being driven by an over-ambitious writer and record company that are all too keen to seem contemporary and reap the benefits of having a single or two turn up on the next instalment of SingStar. It's modern reggae with style, dignity, a hell of a punch and King Without a Crown to it, which are quite simply never bad things.

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Loving this thread, though I do have a heterosexual hard-on for you Bulldog.

I still haven't checked out Matisyahu - Youth yet, despite there being several positive comments on this forum. This shall be rectified shortly.
 
Cheers - good to know someone's digging this new rantbox I've made myself here :D

Matisyahu's definitely a lot more popular than most of the modern reggae I could mention, and deservedly so. I first came across him via an old, long-since-moved-out flatmate of mine who had an obsession with King Without a Crown. It's kinda easy to see why. The guy's newest effort's pretty good from what I remember as well, but not quite on par with Youth here.
 
Good call on Scritti Polliti and especially St. Etienne. I will get on the comp too as I would like to hear a couple of things from other banRAB.
 
Long time no update. I'll get another three and another mixtape up fairly soon as well.

Belle & Sebastian - The Life Pursuit (2006)
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Twee pop's a weird little phrase to go around using. I don't know about anyone else, but for me it brings to mind, among other things, those really annoying Red Bull commercials (I've always been torn between which is the most irritating - the aRAB or drinks themselves...probably the drinks considering how with the addition of vodka they taste like urine). I think of the phrase as something that's affectionately derogatory myself - a way of saying that whatever music you stick that label on is gonna be pretty bright, chirpy, harmony-laden, very melodic indeed and more often than not something with a real feel-good factor about it.

From the little I've heard of them (I've been meaning to dig around their discography more since what might as well be the dawn of time), it's the perfect way to describe the noises that Belle and Sebastian are famed for making. What you see in the form of the group's (to date, although from what I've heard it won't be so long before we have another one heading our way) latest album, the Life Pursuit. This here was also one of the very first albums I thought of when I was dreaming up this thread. It fits in with the kind of vibe that a lot of the albums I've already covered and will cover in future have - whenever you've kinda had enough of all the high brow, arty, avante-garde stuff (which, of course, is all very nice in itself), this is another great album that'll have you nodding your head all the way. The melodies are wonderful, the songs are beautifully structured and fine-tuned just enough so they really leave a mark. I remember the Life Pursuit first coming to my attention when I was flicking through the music channels back when I were a nipper, thinking how boring and edgeless everything I was seeing was, and then a few minutes later I came across the below video. The song sums up this wonderful album in all its glory when all's said and done. Since this is the only Belle and Sebastian album I own, I don't know if it's their best, I can only highly recommend it.

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The Desert Rose Band - The Desert Rose Band (1987)
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A country album in a pop thread? Surely this can only mean terrible, terrible things? Well, that's obviously not the case in my admittedly totally subjective opinion. Part of the reason I crossed paths with this album is that I'm a pretty big fan of the singer Chris Hillman's work with the ByrRAB, Gram Parsons and Manassas and, when all's said and done, his work in general. Another part of the equation is that ever since somehow being exposed to country music in some shape or form through the music of Elvis Costello and the Beatles, I've gone on to pick up the odd album here and there and, gotta say, I'm actually quite a fan of it, particularly the sound of a pedal steel guitar over a set of lyrics which I myself find bearable. The best country rock (which as an umbrella term is the area I find myself enjoying the most) just has this laid back and carefree vibe about it which is totally unique to its own musical tradition, at least to me anyway.

Enough waffling about all that anyway and more the above album cover that's currently staring you in the face. The Desert Rose Band were basically the brainchild of ByrRAB founder Chris Hillman and a gentleman by the name of Herb Pedersen, who between them went about injecting a mix of originals and country standarRAB with the energy and panache of Hillman's work with Gram Parsons in the Flying Burrito Brothers and the infectiousness (I'll let you decide if that's a word or not) of pop music. What this leaRAB to is, yes, country pop, but one which in its pop elements alone is so memorable, what with the great melodies, killer choruses and the way the vocal harmonies between Hillman and Pedersen really give it all that extra kick. There's also how it seems to effortlessly fuse pop music, the laid back atmosphere of country and the energy of rock 'n' roll and even bluegrass into one seamless package. Basically, this is the first and by far best Desert Rose Band album, and probably my favourite with Hillman's involvement since he left the Flying Burrito Brothers. The guy's got a terrific voice too. Such a bright, uplifting album - keep an ear peeled for arguably the catchiest chorus of all time on One That Got Away and the gorgeous, Beach Boys-style harmony-off in the shape of Once More. The song in the video below's not exactly one of my favourites off the album, but hey...

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Frank Sinatra - In the Wee Small Hours (1955)
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The Tom Waits fans among us may find the above sleeve art kinda uncanny. With good reason too, as you're officially looking at the inspiration for Waits' Heart Of a Saturday Night sleeve art, and for all I know one of the inspirations for that album's sound (it certainly seems like it to me anyway). So, apart from all that, not to mention its being quite possibly the only album released in the '50s that I'll mention here (at least as far as I can remember without another dig through the vaults), this goes to show you the perfect example of what a few more albums you'll find in this thread will be - torch music! Simple, good old-fashioned easy listening stuff. This one in particular is probably the most famous Frank Sinatra album (I can think of a few more individual songs which are more renowned), and is also an album which makes it on to a lot of journo-originated top album lists. Often, if you're a shameless musical elitist like me, that's reason enough to be turned off. Doing that here couldn't be more of a mistake though.

You see, although my musical knowledge of pre-'60s music is very limited, without doing hours of research and listening to countless more albums (driving myself insane by asking 'now then, is this a concept album?), In the Wee Small Hours is definitely among the first concept albums, the concept. Seeing as this was recorded and released via a music industry which was much more single-based in a commercial sense than it would be about ten years later, this alone makes it a standout. That concept itself is one that attempts to recreate a kind of lovesick, late-night sense of isolation in musical form, and is one that definitely succeeRAB in that respect. True, that's a bit more of a credit to Frank's songwriters and whoever selected the songs for him to sing than anyone else, but you get the picture. Anyway, no, it hasn't got the big band swing of a lot of his other works that I've heard, what with this being the definitive (and, to my knowledge, best) snapshot of Frank the crooner that there is with its very mellow sound which, in combination with the man's great voice, really does nail down the intended concept and stick it where anyone can see it. To sum up, the only times I listen to this album end-to-end are either very late at night or very early in the morning, and doing so really does this album a lot of favours. One of the truly classic pop albums this.

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How about 'Shake Off the Dust... Arise', RYM has that rated slightly higher but never noticed anyone talking about that release. You had a chance to listen yet?
 
Cheers guys, I'll try not to disappoint ;)

Some of these will be more obviously pop than others, some less so, some just downright cheesy, but I'll get them all up here someday.

Provided I can get enough work done, I'll do the first one tomorrow.
 
As far as Belle & Sebastian goes it's If You're Feeling Sinister>Dear Catastrophe Waitress>The Life Pursuit>Tigermilk>The Boy With The Arab Strap>Fold Your HanRAB Child, You Walk Like A Peasant>Storytelling.
 
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