The What If Thread!

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Hey guys! RSharps back from the dead. :chowder: (School midterms have been killer)

I recall watching Shrek a month or so ago when it was on HBO, and it got me thinking: What if Shrek had never been released until now?

How do you think animated movies and TV shows would've been affected? Would CGI have not been as popular, hand-drawn still the reigning animation style, less pop-culture quips replaced with actual attempts at jokes, etc.? Or would another movie accomplish what Shrek did to modern animation?

Of course, when this question has run its course, feel free to add another. As SpongeBob would say, use your IMAGINATION *rainbow'd*
 
I still think that CGI would be popular (remember Pixar), but I don't think there would be as many pop-culture jokes since Shrek is the one that kind of started that trend.

I also think that Dreamworks movies would be more serious like Spirit or Prince of Egypt (its been forever since I have seen either one of those).
 
I agree but if I remember, the Canadian series Reboot all started or pioneered the CGI animation on tv. If Reboot hadn't been broadcasted, another series could had taked the lead.

Btw, could we post some other "what if" ideas? I taught of what if Trixie Tang was the average kid and Timmy the popular kid in FOP? Or in Total Drama Island, what if Ezekiel didn't said the sexist comments who resulted to be voted off?
 
Here's a what if for ya: What if Cartoon Network had picked up the Larry and Steve short for a Cartoon Cartoon series? How different would Johnny Bravo have been if Seth was hardly involved or not involved at all because he had his own series already? Would the Cartoon Cartoon franchise have lasted shorter or longer? And how would this affect Fox Sunday nights? Family Guy most likely wouldn't have happened and neither would the rest of the Seth shows. Would the Simpsons, Futurama, and King of the Hill be airing as Animation Domination, or would Fox have dropped the animated prime time block altogether by now? Would it have made a difference at all?
 
O-k, I want to answer all the unanswered questions, and ask my own, but there are too many. Can you guys please it narrow down for everyone else? We need to keep this simple, please do not ask too many questions at a time, and answer the previous question before asking your own. I am not trying to tell anyone which to do, I am just saying please be considerate, because this is a very interesting thread, and there could be thousands of interesting questions and answers asked here, but not too many at a time, that is all.

O-k, so the questions we have so far are ...

"What if Trixie Tang was the average kid and Timmy the popular kid in Fairly Oddparents?"

"In Total Drama Island, what if Ezekiel didn't said the sexist comments who resulted to be voted off?"

"What if Cartoon Network had picked up the Larry and Steve short for a Cartoon Cartoon series? How different would Johnny Bravo have been if Seth was hardly involved or not involved at all because he had his own series already? Would the Cartoon Cartoon franchise have lasted shorter or longer? And how would this affect Fox Sunday nights? Family Guy most likely wouldn't have happened and neither would the rest of the Seth shows. Would the Simpsons, Futurama, and King of the Hill be airing as Animation Domination, or would Fox have dropped the animated prime time block altogether by now? Would it have made a difference at all?"

Would anyone care to answer? I would, but maybe someone else can give it a shot.

Looneytunes/Disneytoons
 
Here's some thing what if Martin Mysteries had gotten a TV movie? I wish it did, one of my favorite shows :crying:

Or

What if 13 Ghosts came back from the dead in a direct to DVD movie? To finish off the series.
 
Interesting topic. Here are some...

What if:

C.H. Greenblatt had stayed with his original concept of Chowder being about magic rather than cooking?

Chowder (the character this time) were a girl?

Flapjack and Captain K'nuckles were female characters?

Toonami were still running on Cartoon Network today? What shows would Toon be airing on the block?

The Mighty B! had been a smashing success?

The Venture Brothers had aired on Comedy Central instead of Adult Swim?

The Simpsons had been a black family?
 
Interesting thread.

I'll ask/answer some questions later on, but I'd like to restate Looneytunes' proposal that we tackle these questions one at a time, this way we get more discussion and someone's question isn't left unanswered.
 
O-k then, questions away. I will think of some later, but thanks for at least acknowledging what I said, while everyone else simply ignored me, sighs.

Looneytunes/Disneytoons
 
High five, mate, but Mario appeared in the Captain N: the Game Master comics? Wow. That is victory, if anything, considering none of the Mario characters appeared on the show. I always knew Samus did, though, since I do have a Captain N comic, but then again, Mother Brain always appeared in the comics and on the show. By the way, did Pac-Man appear in the comics, too? I could have sworn I saw him on a cover, but I do not know.

Looneytunes/Disneytoons
 
:^: Just did some digging. Apparently, Mario did not appear in the Captain N comics (my mistake!), but Samus did:

So this gives us some idea what Samus would have been like on the show. As for Pac-Man, since no 3rd party characters were featured in the comic, that would exclude Pac-Man, who's property of Namco and Midway.


I have another hypothetical: what if the six core 'Squaddies' on The Super Hero Squad Show were women? (This thought occurred to me while watching the anime Vandread.)
 
Thanks for the information, but man, I was hoping you were right "Mario in Captain N, yay!", but at least the Super Mario Bros video game franchise was referenced in the pilot episode, but I digress.

Looneytunes/Disneytoons
 
O_O ...Wasn't expecting this to be so popular xD

Also, I did ask for one question at a time...since no one answered Shrek, I suppose the Captain N question can stay open - only ask questions that generate conversation!
 
I finally have some, I have been having these inside for a while:

What if Bugs Bunny and Donald Duck, and Mickey Mouse and Daffy Duck interacted in Who Framed Roger Rabbit??

What if Snoopy and Garfield met, what if the Road Rovers and the Swat Kats?

What if all of the main American Dad characters appeared on Family Guy, what if it was the other way around?

What if all of the blockheads did meet each other on Gumby?

What if more Tiny Toon Adventures characters interacted with their Looney Tunes counterparts? What if more Tiny Toon Adventures were developed? What if Lightning Rodriquez was used more than an one-time character merely seen in the distance?

What if Porky Pig adopted Charlie Dog and Sylvester together? What if Granny and Witch Hazel interacted, what if Sylvester, Penelope, and Pussyfoot did, what if the dogs (Charlie Dog, Briar Dog, Mark Anthony, etc) did, what if Tweety, Speedy, and Hippety Hopper did? What if Ralph Wolf and Wile E. Coyote met each other?

What if Snow White's stepmother's raven had more of a role, what if Snow White's prince's horse had more of a role?

What if Iago never spoke, and was merely a pet (for example, Diablo, Maleficent's raven? Maleficent is the evil fairy from Sleeping Beauty)? What if Iago never crossed over to the good side?

What if Snoopy's sidekick was a cat?

What if Dark Heart remained a villain in Care Bears II?

What if Fearsome Flush (the ghost toilet action figure from Real Ghost-Busters toy line) was a character on the show?

What if Captain Hook did not turn out to be such a wimp?

What if the Queen of Hearts was not fat, and what if the King of Hearts was tall?

What if the husband and cat of Cruella De Vil were not admitted for the animated film, One Hundred and one Dalmatians?

What if the rhinoceros character was not omitted from the Jungle Book?

What if more characters met on the House of Mouse?

What if Metalhead (the robotic turtle from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was never re-programmed)? What if the Punk Frogs (Genghis, Attila, Napoleon, and Rasputin) stayed evil? What if General Traag's assistant rock soldier was named for the episode he appeared in? What if there was another evil turtle to form an evil turtle clan alongside Slash, Metalhead, and Tokka?

I hope this not too much, sorry if it is, but these are burning for me.

Looneytunes/Disneytoons
 
I know I already rambled on and on about my picks, but some of them seem quite interesting to me, not to boast or anything, but there is one that I have always considered.

In Hey Arnold, Arnold (the major character) has a lookalike cousin named Arnie, who is seen in two episodes, but in one episode, he is seen in a dream, but in the dream, Arnold visits Arnie and sees people who are lookalikes of his friends, but have their personalities switched, but I always wondered, what if those lookalikes were seen again and were not just dream characters, but real life characters, as with Arnie. It does not seem that big of a deal, I know, but I always pondered this.

Let me come up with some more:

What if there was a Sesame Street Babies counterpart of the Muppet Babies? There could have also been a Fraggle Rock Babies, but even though Fraggle Rock is partnered with Sesame Street and the Muppet Show, it belongs in a whole different group, and if I recall, there was an animated version of it, but maybe I am mistaken.

What if Oliver & Company was an actual sequel of the Rescuers? What if Cruella De Vil was in the Rescuers? (As they are both originally supposed to be)

What if Daffy Duck had a girlfriend, as Bugs had Lola in "Space Jam"? What if Goofy had a girlfriend? (And no, I do not consider Clarabelle his girlfriend, because she is Horace's girlfriend)

What if Skeeter from the Muppet Babies appeared in the live action muppet movies? What if more of the common muppets appeared on the Muppet Babies?

What if there was a show called Disney Babies? (Is there?)

What if Pluto was more Goofy like? (Say human-like)

What if Goofy had a wife, and Max had a mother?

What if more Disney and Warner characters interacted in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, say Goofy and Charlie Dog, Pluto and K-9, Mickey and Marvin Martian, etc?

What if certain cartoon characters from Who Framed Roger Rabbit? were not edited out of the film? (Tom and Jerry, Popeye, etc)

What if God, the Devil, and Bob became a live action film?

Are any of these good? These are the best I can come up with so far.

Looneytunes/Disneytoons
 
Then poor Gilbert Gottfried wouldn't have had a job, and you'd be taking food out of his mouth and money out of his pocket. Shame on you. :p

Would never have happened. Charles Schulz said that he didn't draw cats very well, hence why the cat next door was perpetually off-screen.

Daffy doesn't need a girlfriend because he's in love with himself. (Also, Bugs had a girlfriend in the comics, Honey Bunny, long before the creation of Lola.) Though, just for the sake of having more female Looney Tunes characters, Warners could probably trot out Melissa Duck (from The Scarlet Pumpernickel) once in a while. Though ideally, a much more progressive idea would be to create a female Looney Tunes character who was a star in her own right, not merely an appendage to a male character. Why do female toons always have to be girlfriends first and characters second?

Regarding Goofy: he had a girlfriend in the comics at one time: Gloria "Glory" Bee.

There already was a Sesame Street Babies, they just didn't have a TV show. The SSB graced a series of merchandise for toddlers.

No TV show, but again, baby versions of Mickey and the gang adorned some baby clothes and merchandise.

Chronologically speaking, Skeeter appearing in the first 3 movies (The Muppet Movie, The Great Muppet Caper and The Muppets Take Manhattan) would've been impossible, since Muppet Babies--and Skeeter--weren't created until after the release of those movies. That said, I'd welcome the former, since the Muppet cast could use some more dynamic females (and indeed, Skeeter did appear in the Muppet Kids storybooks), but the latter wouldn't be necessary. The objective behind Jim Henson's Muppet Babies wasn't to turn every single character from The Muppet Show into a baby, and the last thing Muppet Babies needed was more characters; they barely used all of the 8-10 characters they had. Nearly all of the stories focused on Kermit, Piggy, Gonzo and to a lesser extent Fozzie, the others were really only there to fill up the numbers. Bean Bunny was a 5th wheel personified. The show is long out of production, but if it weren't, the writers needed to do more work with the characters they had before entertaining the thought of adding any more.

Then it'd be even weirder for him to be Mickey's pet than it is now.


This is an interesting question. If you belong to the camp that believes that Goofy Jr. from the 1950's Goofy shorts was/is actually Max at a very young age, then there was a Mrs. Goofy at one stage, and presumably she died sometime between the shorts and Goof Troop. There is another school of thought that Max's mom is in fact the aforementioned Glory Bee, who also presumably met a bad end at some point before the beginning of Goof Troop. (In each case I use the death scenario since I can't imagine anyone being hard-hearted enough to divorce a good-natured lug like the Goof.) But as a long time advocate of gender equality in cartoons, I for one would've welcomed a Mrs. Goof, for the simple fact that I can't stand shows about single fathers and the Dead Mother Syndrome.

The Tiny Toons writers deliberately avoided extensive contact between the Tiny Toons and their adult counterparts, as they didn't want to rely too much on Bugs, Daffy et al. Tiny Toons was about recapturing the spirit of the Looney Tunes for a new generation, it wasn't about the adult Toons and the kid toons interacting all the time. They wanted the Tiny Toons characters to establish their own identities, and they wouldn't have been able to do that if they were always hanging around with their mentors.

As for Lightning Rodriguez, I don't know the exact story, but my guess is that the reason he never used to any great extent was for the same reason that Speedy Gonzalez himself was pushed back in later years; the WB execs may have been concerned that in this era of Political Correctness, that the character may have been seen as an offensive ethnic stereotype.

It would've been met with outrage from the Bible bumpers, who would've objected to the humorous depiction of the Almighty and seen it as making fun of God and Christianity, and ultimately it would've bombed since all controversy aside, the product just wasn't very good, in short, it would've met with the same fate as the TV show.
 
I did not know we were supposed to actually gave answers to people's questions, otherwise I would have been doing already, to say, I do not know, anyone who has asked a question. I mean, why just limit it to my questions, right?

Looneytunes/Disneytoons
 
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