The Smut and Sadism of Rock

Until I have children of my own? Get your facts strait before attacking me. I have 3 kiRAB and was responsible for raising 2 nieces and a nephew when I was in my teens.

I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR RAISING MY KIRAB. I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW THEY TURN OUT.

I will not stoop to blame anyone but myself if I fail.
 
I buy all my music from either Borders or Amazon now, but in the past I have found that if I wanted uncensored music, I had to go to a music store. I can't speak for today, but I know that in the past most large retail stores took the same point as Wal Mart. There was a while when I lived in NC that there was 1 local record store that would sell albums with the sticker. Eventually, the other stores learned that this stand was bad for revenue. Sure, you set "high moral standarRAB" but you were losing money at the same time.


EDIT: I left NC in 91 or 92.
 
Parents can only do so much in educating their children. Peer pressure is an even bigger problem for children today and wanting to fit into a crowd can sometimes override whatever the chilRAB upbringing. My eldest son is 14 and listens to commercial Hip Hop (I have tried and failed to get him off it!) which of course is misogonystic, full of expletives, glorifies crime and gang culture yet he does'nt hang around street corners, never causes any trouble and is polite to anyone he encounters. The problems are much deeper and complicated than you say. parents have a MASSIVE responsibility of that there is no doubt, but not everything is the parents fault.

Technology has got to a point where it saturates childrens lives and they are subjected to far more stimuli than when I was growing up, it is obvious that some media will influence children but no one section of it is responsible for bad behaviour.
 
That's fine if Tipper Gore feels those songs are inappropriate for her children but don't tell me I have to follow her standarRAB for my own kid.*












*I don't actually have a kid but if I did I'd raise him on Mclusky and Big Black.
 
Me & my parents had a deal going when I was growing up.

I could watch whatever film I liked listen to whatever music I liked as long as I didn't get into any trouble.

It worked 99% of the time.
 
Yeah, it should be.

But it doesn't have to be all about love and peace. Sometimes you need music that gets the anger out of your system. Rape and murder music is still terrible, but sometimes you just gotta go freaking crazy head-banging while your angry so that you don't explode on someone else.

Of course, you could argue that music that is peaceful and loving is better than music that lets you darker emotions, but then it really just covers it up and saves it for later.
 
Tipper Gore's position on this was as a concerned parent. Of course you have to take into account who her husband is. If it had been my mother in her shoes nothing would have happened. Her goal in the matter didn't seem to be censoring the music so much giving parents more options to monitor what their children are listening to. She even stated that the PMRC was not looking for censorship.

It ended up being the senate committee that pushed harder for censorship.
I agree that if I think its ok for my 6 year old to listen to Torture Killer, thats my choice to make. I don't think anyone should be able to tell me any different.
 
"In another disconcerting development, some rock artists promote and glorify suicide. Ozzy Osbourne sings "Suicide Solution"; Blue Oyster Cult sings "Don't Fear the Reaper"; AC/DC sings "Shoot to Thrill." Every year half a million teenagers attempt suicide. More than 6,000 succeed. Yet too many of the executives of the rock record industry apparently don't care." -Tipper Gore

Well I don't really think Don't Fear the Reaper is about suicide....I mean if you wanna go there Stairway to Heaven could very well also be about suicide. But neither are, I think Dont Fear The Reaper is about how death is natural.

Anyway, yes in these twisted times I think we should have censoring. I mean songs abotu rape? That's horrible! Yes sexual inuendos have always been in rock, but theres a difference between inuendos and graphic immages.
 
Because I am interested in seeing how other people view these hearings and how things changed. How does the parents responsibility weigh against the record industry? Should the music industry have any part in anything other than selling music? You decided to come in halfway through and and point out that I am wrong and it isn't the parents fault. My point again is that I have a responsibility to teach my children, all 3 of them, the morals to be able to cope with outside influences. I need to make sure that they know how to react when they hear somebody singing about gutting a prostitute.
 
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