The Smut and Sadism of Rock

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Ricardo Kaka

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Same here. I was watching the legendary Video Nasties of the 80's when I was ten and worshipping at the altar of Satan @ 14. Only kidding. I just hate the fact that one particular facet is to be blamed. The problems run far deeper than that.
 
Because we should all love one another. Rape is illeagal and so is "rape pornography" so why shouldnt rap music be?

And rock and roll should be about love and peace.
 
No, because my children know the difference between fantasy and reality, at least as far as a child can.

Why are you antagonizing me?
 
A song about rape isn't raping someone. If you hear a song about rape you're not going to go rape someone. For all you know some rapist could be a fan of Christian music. I bet you asked all the rapists alive what their favorite song was you would find a variety of answers none of which were connected in anyway and the most popular song would probably be Stairway to Heaven or some classic rock anthem, hell it could even be a hymnal. There is no scientific information or even psychological backing to this theory that if you hear a corabination of syllables arranged in a certain matter you're going to turn into a rapist.
 
Yes, actually I have reconsidered. I meant songs "glorifying rape". Many folk songs have themes of rape and muder, as long as it shows it in a remorseful or "sad" (for lack of a better word) way
 
Thats your opinion. Maybe I don't want my music to be about peace and love;)

Besides, censorship does nobody any good. We all make our own choices based on what we believe not based on propaganda.
 
Most of us have heard of the PMRC hearings from 1985. Without going into the issue of censorship, where do you stand on the subject? Do you think it is important for parents to know what their kiRAB are listening to? How has the music industry changed as a result of the hearings? Is it for the better or worse?
This is what set the whole thing off.


I think that when looking at lyrical content, vulgarity has increased. Violence in music has also increased. It is to the point that interpreting lyrics isn't necessary in some cases. To hold the hearings again today with artists like Cannibal Corpse and Eminem would end up detrimental to the industry.
As a parent I think it is more important for me to teach my kiRAB the difference between fantasy and reality. My parents did a good job of that and when I hear the lyrics "fornicate the dead" I don't go out and screw dead people. I don't think its a long shot to believe that most parents have done the same. Of course I am talking about the extreme end of the spectrum. When you start looking at certain violent lyrics such as "Kim" by Eminem the picture may change. Somebody acting out these lyrics may not be so far fetched. Eminem wrote about this in "Stan". We could turn this to the argument about video games and tv and end up with the same problem. Rather than screening everything that your kiRAB are exposed to, I think its more important to teach them what is right and wrong. Of course if I hear my 12 year old daughter listening to "Fuck The World", I'm gonna take it from her. Sometimes you have to censor what your kiRAB are exposed to, most times you just need to make sure they understand that it isn't reality.
I'm not sure that the hearings had a long term effect on music. Short term, I remeraber having problems buying music because of that damned sticker, today it seems like a badge of honor. Lyrical content has gotten worse in terms of the subject matter that the PMRC was against.
My stand on this is education. It shouldn't be the responsibility of anyone other than the parents to educate their children. The hearings were a waste if time and, though I understand their concern, the senate has no place in the matter.
 
yeah,I only read the first paragraph. But I don't think parent should control what kiRAB listen to. If that happened I would of never heard the Sex Pistols
 
I came in half way through? Apologies for not being there at the start of the thread. I cannot spread myself everywhere at once. If you had read my responses you would have deduced that there is a myriad of problems that afflict the youth of today and laying the blame at any one facet of society is narrowminded and short sighted. As for the gutting of a prostitute , I have no idea what you are alluding to but if you have that sort of music in your collection then it is up to you to censor what you listen to and what youre children are exposed to. The music industry has no moral obligation at this time to censor themselves. Judging by mainstream U.S tv, these acts would not get the time of day so if that is censored what is the problem?
 
People should be subjected to all art forms,
whether young or old. Plus, keeping something
hidden from a kid wont solve anything; but
subjecting them to it will solve everything.
EVERYTHING
 
I think I got my love of horror from my dad who let me watch them but he was and still is a good man who taught me right from wrong. I did'nt get my boozing from him so that once again proves it is not always the parents fault!
 
The part I made bold is exactly the point of this thread in the first place. The PMRC wanted to place the responsibility of protecting our youth from vulgar music on the music industry. My point is that it is the parents responsibility, not the music industry. Everyone has the right to raise their children however they want, I choose to take the stance that my most important role is in teaching my children higher morals so they can deal with the world without being ignorant about it. I feel that the only way that society can have a negative impact in my children's lives is if I do not take the time to teach them the difference between right and wrong. If I manage to give them the impression that popularity is more important than doing what is right, they will do wrong. My opinion is mine and I have no interest in changing anyones mind. I started this thread to have a civil discussion about how others feel about this subject.
 
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