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Excellent responses guys. I'm really enjoying the discussions taking place.

Thursday, I agree with your points on Scarface. The trashy nature of the film does give it it's flavour and is used to convey it's morality tale. However, I want to comment on what you said about younger people misinterpreting the themes of films.

You're somewhat right when you say that just because people like so and so films for the wrong reasons, it doesn't make a bad film. However, I feel that it automatically doesn't make a great film in return. Because if people see the film and take it the complete wrong way, I feel that that film has not done a good job on conveying it's points and moral stance. This usually leads to me giving it an entire star less than I normally would.

Compare American History X to Shane Meadows' outstanding This Is England. If you go on ANY AHX board, you'll notice a strong number of racist people raise the film and use it as inspiration to fuel hatred.

However, if you look at nearly all the TIE boards, it's completely the opposite despite having the same subject matter. The difference is execution. TIE is successful in conveying that racism is abhorrent and repugnant, whereas AHX comes across as if it sympathizes with those who are drawn the the extreme right. I'm not saying that that was it's intention, but that's what comes across. At least to me.

So yeah, I think such films have to take a bit of flake for influencing minds in such a way. But Scarface is different and I feel has been represented in a fair way.
 
You know I would. I really would. But..you bore me so I think i'll do myself a favour and not waste my time explaining such things to somebody who clearly isn't even interested in discussing things properly. I've bitten my tongue for long enough now, but you give gay people a pretty bad name. Always getting sensitive and pushy when somebody makes the slightest comment about you and your sexuality. Please do get over yourself.

Anyways, i'm ignoring this idiots posts for the time being and i've gone off the discussion on Brokeback Mountain. My next 15 films should hopefully provide us with a more mature and, ahem, natural conversation.
 
Well, that's one of the problems I've always had with Blade Runner. I mean, I saw it opening day, and I later payed attention to all the machinations to get Scott's "vision" out there, but I have never, ever, been remotely moved by anything which Blade Runner depicts on the screen. I find almost every single character repulsive. Now, let me tell you this, if you don't already know this about me, but I believe the most repulsive people on Earth DO NOT DESERVE to die! I reject the Death Penalty. Oh yes, The Maltese Falcon is awesome, but Blade Runner can never compare.

I realize that people believe that the visuals and sonics make it just spectacular, and if you care about these "creations" who never had a chance to rebel against their God, then you must think the film is great. I find that argument specious. OK, I realize that Blade Runner is futuristic film noir, but I'm not one who has sold my soul to film noir. Blade Runner has always felt as cold as ice to me, such as a few other noir classics (for example Out of the Past and The Strange Love of Martha Ivers) and if you're trying to get people to CARE about something, then that's a problem. I realize that it may be a question of style over substance, but I have a tough time finding the substance, other than some nebulous concept of humanity.
 
Oh cheers mate. Appreciate the compliments. And it's brilliant to have talk to somebody else who has seen Frailty! Bill Paxton doesn't annoy me, but I haven't thought much of him as an actor. But you're right in saying that he was revelationary when he directed Frailty. He needs to direct again. It's a great, great film. Hence the reason why it makes it high on my list.
 
Well needless to say, you know your stuff.
Could I borrow your idea, with including snap shots, in my reviews as well?
 
It's my favorite of his as well. I am sure we are in the minority on that one.

I am also glad you gave Little Miss Sunshine a chance as well. I can't think of any other movie that was cast as perfectly as that one.
 
Adi? Oh, Adi - ass? Nah mate, woudn't waste my time trying to wind up an attention seeker who hetrophobic . Sad part about it all is he thinks he was being witty in his last post on this thread where in fact nobody got what he was saying.

I think you might be underrated Identity just a lil bit, mate. Watch it again and then tell me what you think. You may feel differently. You're making me want to watch it again too, actually.

Ain't seen Chocolate. Haven't even heard of it! Butif you tie it with Ong Bak then i'm ordering the muthafooker right now.
 
"WROOOOOOONG!" - Lex Luthor in Superman Returns

Anyway, why don't you like Superman? Any particular reason?
 
I saw Braun the other day at the theater and although I can't say I was as impressed as you were it is an interesting film and worthy of discussion (and a re-watch, eventually). I'm gonna see the rest of the trilogy in a few days in the theater too...
 
Agreed. Romeo Brass completely took me by surprise. And if it was more well known, people would liken Morell to iconic guys like Travis Bickle.

And thanks for your kind compliments
 
"WROOOOOOONG!" - Lex Luthor in Superman Returns

Anyway, why don't you like Superman? Any particular reason?
 
My main beef with the man in blue and red stems from the fact that the character is nearly perfect in his morality, physicality and looks. Theres no complexity to him and he really isn't in any serious danger to his situations, no intensity whatsoever.

Also add that the interpretations of Superman have been exactly the same tonally. Nobody really knows how to reinterpret him, but that's probably because of the character's limitations.I like much darker characters and that character just doesn't challenge me at all.

I have to say that I get this extreme pro american vibe from Superman. Now, before anybody starts, i'm NOT saying that that's a bad thing and i'm not turning this into an anti-american post at all. But I do feel that the presence of patriotism is incredibly prevalent in the Superman character to a point where it may make youngster deluded.

I think Michael Caine said it best: 'Superman is about how America sees itself. Batman is about how the world sees America'.
 
Right on, mate. I wouldn't mind seeing the entire trilogy in cinemas myself. I would also recommending buying the Fassbinder DVD Collection. What did you think of the 2nd in the trilogy, Veronica Voss?
 
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