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Heh, were some of those comments to heckle Adi?
Agree about Frailty, but think Identity was the weakest entry, too much gimmicky editing. I seem to recall a similar film coming out around same time?
Have you seen Chocolate? I tied it with Ong-Bak, so well worth a look imo
 
Is Superman : The Movie on there because you actually enjoy watching it or because you think it's a big achievement for comic book movies ?

This list is interesting so far - might have to check out a couple movies on here I haven't seen.
 
Ack, i can't get through Boogie Nights because Marky Mark does my nut in. Can usually tolerate it until we see Heather Graham's naughty bits but then it's normally game over.
 
Is Superman : The Movie on there because you actually enjoy watching it or because you think it's a big achievement for comic book movies ?

This list is interesting so far - might have to check out a couple movies on here I haven't seen.
 
Oh, I'll take another look at it if I get the chance. You certainly made it sound like a film that would interest me.

As for Following, I'm afraid that's another film that just doesn't grab me, although I've not seen one frame of it. Hey, maybe one day.
 
I don't think you'll have to. It's an outstanding film, but not up to Three Colours, masterpiece, quality IMO.
 
Yeah, it's a film that isn't for the faint of heart. My ex girlfriend was very upset by it even though she rated the film highly. It's that gritty realism, see. But give it a go. You may not watch it everyday but i'm very sure that you will appreciate it.

And I too think you should give Suspects another go. Forget about the twist and just enjoy the character dynamics and seamless editing, because those are the most fundamental aspects of the film and the main reason it's rated so high on my list.
 
It's a film that depicts a gay relationship between two cowboys. This does not make it a gay film.And i'll tell you what, mate, I feel stupid for pointing this out to you for the millionth time. Because using your logic you might as well say that Collateral is a film about assassinations or that Titanic is about a boat that sinks. Do you see where this is going?ou

And you can resort to insulting me all you want if it fires up your precious gay pride, but you'll never be able to convince me that Brokeback Mountain is anything less than a 'gay film'.

Like Pyro acknowledged befored me, I never denied the gay themes of the film at all. It's clearly a theme...I just think there appears to be more said. Your argument seems to suggest that this film was made with some sort of liberal obligation to man on man action, whereas I am saying that Ang Lee had much bigger goals and themes intended. Perhaps if I had sat through the film with my brain shut off, we'd be agreeing a lot more than we have in this thread.

As for the google comment, you continue to assume random things about people you don't even know. I've done a couple of fascinating modules on New Queer Cinema before. In fact, my tutor was gay and he taught me a lot of fascinating stuff regarding homosexuality in cinema. So think before you start sprouting such nonesense, yeah?

This is where you're going wrong and this is why you need to stop, because you're definitely not looking clever by twisting mine and Pyro's words. Quite the opposite in fact..
 
OK, i'm hoping that the twat finally got the message, so I would like to continue my version of the greatest films ever produced. Still with me? Lets continue...

54. Willow (Ron Howard, 1988)



I'm very surprised at how many people on this forum underrate this great epic adventure. In fact, most people seem to underrate it. For years I had it in my head that this film was loved by most people. But I was clearly wrong..

I just don't see why people dislike it. It's an a fun filled journey with a lot of likable characters and character development. It's got good special effects and Howard was brave enough to cast a dwarf as the main protagonist. Considering it's a studio film, you have to give the guy props. You care about the characters (well I did at least) and its touching in a lot of places. I just don't get the negativity. Lord Of The Rings is no different. It's just ten times longer.

The scene where Willow watches Val Kilmer's Madmartigan show the heroic figure that had been hinted at earlier in the film still makes me mark out. Top film.

53. Groundhog Day (Harold Ramis, 1993)


Ever imagine what it would be like living the same awful day over and over and over and over and over? Well Harold Ramis' very funny morality tale shows you what it's like - and with halirous results.

Bill Murray's talents are used to it's fullest potential here. He is at his snidey, sarcastic and cynical best as Phil Conners, and he makes this seemingly unsympathetic man seem, well, sympathetic. . There are some GREAT comedic scenes and not even a dud like Andie McDowell can stop this film from being one of the best comedies of the 90s.

52. Dawn Of The Dead (George A. Romero 1978)



After the recent Land and Diary films, I think it's safe to say that Dawn has cemented itself as the best out of Romero's Dead trilogy. And given the period this was filmed in, it's social commentary was very relevant and quite bold for a horror film. And what a perfect way to comment on american consumerism by having a bunch of ordanairy citizens stuck inside a shopping mall. Of course, it took a bunch of film critics to expose these themes, but the impact remains the same.

One of the most interesting things about the themes is that the survivors have everything they could ever want in the shopping mall, but none of it matters in the long run because of the zombie predicament. Consumerism baby, it's a bitch. Clever Romero, eh?

It's worth watching the film just for it's simple mix of dark humour, cartoonish photography, and buckets of gore.


51. Rear Window (Alfred Hitchcock, 1954)



As far as masterful voyeuristic thrillers goes, this is the pinnacle as far as i'm concerned with James Stewert is the man that sees far more than he should in one of Hitchcock's best films.

That statement in itself is a tough thing to say considering he made some of the most iconic and influential films of the 40s/50s, but I rate this one highly because the concept of voyeurism had never felt so personal or been explored to a high degree until I watched this film.And Hitchcock isn't labelled 'the master of suspense' for no reason. The suspense and tension throughout the film is off the charts.

Peeping Tom came very close, but I saw that after I had watched this, and this was directed by Mr Hitchcock. Which means superior camera work, superior performances and superior cinematography. . A fascinating piece of work.

50. Back To The Future (Robert Zemeckis, 1985)



Why are time travelling films so popular? There are many theories, but I for one feel it's because of societies desires to 'rewind time'. Imagine the power of doing such a thing eh? Imagine it's Friday night and the lottery's come on and of course you didn't win, but that doesn't matter because you have a time machine! Well Back To The Future explores time travel and much more. Obviously.

The themes of the film are obvious and sort of cliched, so I won't bother highlighting them this time round. It's the adventure and journey the characters go through that makes this truly great.

Time travel is an very old concept, but Zemeckis somehow manages to make it feel fresh and original. His direction is slick, and he clearly demonstrated an understanding for comic timing. But I think the charismatic Michael J Fox had something to do with that latter part. This being his signature role, Fox has much more fun than Eric Stolz probably had, and it shows. Great special effects too.


So there we have it. The first half of my Top 100 Greatest Films Of All Friggin' Time. I won't lie, it's been excruciating thus far, but I have enjoyed doing it. The first half was always going to be the hardest for me, simply because there are thousands of films I generally love. It's been far more easier for me doing the first 50 because I am quite clear on what films I rate as 4 - 5 stars.

But for those who have enjoyed the first 50...wait until you get a load of the next bunch. They will be even more in-depth than ever before and you may see a few surprises in there as well. I'm starting it this coming Tuesday, so stay tuned. Until then, we can discuss some of the films I have listed already. And I thank you all for the contributions you all have made.
 
I'm not sure that a remake can eradicate a previous film...if it could, the movie world would be in serious trouble...

My review of Scarface. (because I don't want to repeat myself)



Well, there are always kids who like films for the wrong reasons. Kids with a Tarantino fetish who think Kill Bill is cool and probably like Taxi Driver for similarly bad reasons (does this make it a bad film?). Scarface isn't cool, though. It is fabulously, awfully uncool in all its eighties glory. Perhaps the clothes/cars etc. were supposed to be cool at the time, I don't know, I was 2. But to either love or hate Scarface for its 'coolness' (and I know this isn't you, mark) is to miss the point of the film entirely.
 
A fine choice, I love this film. I do wish you wouldn't say to 'forget' the gay relationship, though. True, it's not the most important aspect of the film, but that doesn't mean it isn't important to the film or should be forgotten. It makes the film more interesting, to me. Who knows what Frears does or doesn't give a damn about, I spot no theme to his varied body of work (although I'm sure some film student somewhere has found one). But I think it's interesting that he doesn't say 'stop! He's already Asian, lets not make him gay as well, that's too many issues!' making it a film about characters who are more like real people than stereotypes rather than an 'issue' film focussing on one thing. And Hanif Kureishi, the writer, clearly does give a damn about sexuality, but here we're wandering a bit far from the point.

And yeah, Daniel Day Lewis is good in this. But when is he not good?
 
I've been following your list with interest Prestige, whether I've agreed or not I've enjoyed reading your reasonings for each choice (whether I agreed or not with them also :-D )

You've reached a new high though with the inclusion of Frailty. I think you may well be right when you point out just how underrated the film is. To anyone who hasn't seen it I second this choice. I'll grant you that's not saying much, but I do it anyway. It's so good that, along with Near Dark, it's the only Bill Paxton film where I don't sit there watching it, wishing I could rip his face off. I long for the day when he stops acting and directs full time. If Frailty is any indication of his talent behind the camera, he's wasting his time with every film he doesn't make.
 
Serious? Do you not think he's better in this film than he usually is though? I ain't a fan of Marky Mark, but you can tell he did his best here. He stepped up a level.

Plus you need to watch it through more than 3 quarters of the way just so you can check out Thomas Jane's scene stealing bits!! He's ****in' funny as ****.

"Todd......Parker! Todd Parker!"
 
Actually starting to wonder what rest of films on the list could be now, obviously Memento but most one i expected think have been. Get a ****ing move on sunshine!
 
34. Blade Runner (Ridley Scott, 1982)



I've yet to see The Final Cut of Ridley Scott's excellent tech noir. But I don't think it'll do anything other than reconfrim that this is one of the best sci fi thrillers to ever grace the big or small screen. It features my favourite ever dystopian city in a science fiction film. The dark, rainy metropolitan was just a beautiful backdrop for the dodgy going ons. I mean, the world just feel so immersive, and I believe it's this detailed world that first gave Ridley Scott his Mr Attention To Detail' moniker.

When I first watched Blade Runner, I immediately loved it's sci-fi conventions coupled with philosophical themes on identity. It really was a world you believe in, maybe even more so than Star Wars because of the more blantant adult themes.



The film is as famous for it's trouble production as it is for it's cultural impact on subsequent science fiction films. Y'all know the story. Harrison didn't get on with Ridley and Ridley thought Harrison was an arrogant wanker, etc. The studio cut the film up and didn't meet Ridley's requirements, blah blah blah. Y'see, none of that matters anymore because despite all this studio interferance and production difficulties, Blade Runner has emerged as the sci-fi film to beat.

Production design wise, it's unprallel. The effects were and STILL are gorgeous. You can see the production design influence in the likes of Batman Begins and Minority Report. And the fact that i'm using Batman Begins as a measuring stick should go some way into telling you just how I feel about this film.

But it was also one of those sci-fi films that just spoke to you as if it was telling you a bedtime story. Questions raised were, 'who are we and how do we know that we're we'. What defines our identity? In many ways, Blade Runner has a lot in common with Memento in that it suggests that our memories our the only way of truly identitfying ourselves, but even that can be sabotaged. This leads me to my next question..


Do you guys think that Harrison Ford's Deckard was one of the cyborgs? Both Ridley Scott and Harrison Ford give conflicting answers. But i'm going to go with Ridley as, ultimately, it's his vision. If he says that he intended Deckard to be a cyborg then so be it.

I should also mention Rutger Hauer's Roy Batty. Definitely one of the most sympathetic and complex villains I have witnessed in cinema . He's is both terrifying and intriguing. His final scene where he shows his 'humanity' is epic. The scene that precedes it is a really good chase sequence as well. Brilliant film by the design meister.


33. Death Proof (Quentin Tarantino, 2007)



Ok, I know it didn't go down a storm with a lot of people, specially the folks in the states, but I absolutey ADORE this film. In my own humble opinion - it's Tarantino's 2nd best film. It's his most shallow, sure, one of my favourites from the nutter. MUCH better than Planet Terror. That film doesn't come close. It doesn't matter if it sticks to it's conceptualisation more than Death Proof, that just goes to show that Tarantino's film was going to slightly transcend it's love letter to B movies.

From the opening non-too-subtle metaphoric POV opening shot, Death Proof makes it clear that it's got one aim: To entertain.the.****.out.of.you. As far as in your face homage to 'Grindhouse' movies go, Tarantino's road slasher is thrilling: confident, sexy and very violent. I don't care if people say this is his weakest film, I find it perpetually quotable, with the cast making sure every single syllable is delivered with gleeful intent. And the bird's are instantly likeable. Theres not one annoying presence in there, not even Mary Elizabeth Winstead, though I think her yellow cheerleader outfit may have a little something to do with that.



I know a lot of people who complained about there being too much dialogue in film, specially the extended version (which is the only version i'm referring to here). But man, I just think it's REALLY funny. In fact, it's so ****ing halirious that I literally crack up everytime I watch the film. One of the funniest films after American Psycho. No subtext or Einstein like metaphors, just pure fun fun and...cun fun. I don't even know what that means but yeah, this film is a riot.



It's a testament to Tarantino's writing ability that he makes BOTH sets of girls liekable. I mean, the talk about girltalk stuff such as Sex and The City and such a way that you're familiar with them. These are the type of birds I hear at the back of the bus, only Tarantino's lot are far far wittier. I liked both Sydney Poiter's character the most and Zoe Bell. Her limited acting experience being completely irrelevant here as she not only manages to do some pretty cool stunts, but has a knack for delivering Tarantinoesque dialogue without lookin' like too flash an idiot.

A lot of the credit must go to my boy Kurt Russell, who I have admired ever since I first saw him in Tango & Cash and Big Trouble In Little China. The man is a cinematic legend, no doubt. This film only serves to reconfirm that, with him somewhat cast against type as a really charming and creepy stuntman. Too many favourite moments in the film to point out a specific one. I really like the diner bit where Eli Roth and some other geezer is making fun of Stuntman Mike's eating habits, lol. I also love it when Mike's being a proper creep and sniffing on Rosario Dawson's feet then as soon as she wakes up he pretends he's lost his car keys, lmao. It's just both absurd and really funny at the same time, lol.




I can't forget the cool chase sequences. The last chase is a big payoff. Theres no faking it. I don't think it's up there with Bourne Ultimatum's stunt fest, but it's still better than all that CGI shite we get on a regular basis. And the role reversal of Mike becoming the hunted is as halirious as it is satisfying. Watch how he screams like baby after getting shot and then beaten the **** out of him. Great stuff
 
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