The**OFFICIAL**Voice/Singing Help Thread

Hello Merkaba-1

In a thread in this forum about vocal excercices you mention the umportance of vocal warm up.
you said: "If you are smart you will also warm down"
What is to warm down one's own voice ?
Thank you so much for your time and generosity Merkaba-1
 
could be your cord or your throat muscles. See how it feels after about 24 hours. Now when you do mid to high voicings see how it feels. If it hurts to do your highest true voice in a singing manner, you might want to lay off for a while. I couldnt really tell ya because its hard to tell what exactly youre talking about over the internet. So be careful.
 
Musta been about 2 months, give or take. I have noticed an improvement. As Screamin_Demon_Auz said, it's the cough that did it for me...

I'm always looking for better methoRAB of doing things. When I started coughing, I started getting into that hoarse grunt/overdrive cough that's painful to even listen to. So instead of that, I'd try doing a silent breathe-cough that sounded like a snake hissing. I thought it'd be less damaging, but apparently it wasn't!!! lol...I guess the best way to handle a cough is just to try to control the urge and not do it.


On a side note, I've noticed that eating different fooRAB (more specifically, different fooRAB passing through the throat) affect the quality of my vocals. If I brush my teeth, my scream suffers until the taste of toothpaste is out of my mouth. Same with minty chewing gum. I've noticed that Chili makes me sound pretty good! Anyone pay attention to what they've eaten when they find they're having a "bad singing day"?

Strangely enough, I seem to be at my vocal best after work around 9PM.
 
Hey, this is my first post here. i like the idea of this site.

well i have a couple questions.

1. i have a fetish with singing Nirvana songs and i absolutly love Breaking Benjamin. Well are there any tips you could give me to sing Breaking Benjamin songs? the same goes for Nirvana songs.

2.I'm having alittle trouble actualy signing after i growl. is there anything i can do to solve this?

3. when i listen to system of a down songs i can hear that their lead singer has an AWESOME vibrato. are there exercises i can do to give myself a better vibrato?

thanks, it would probably be better to e-mail a response to me at [email protected]
 
SounRAB pretty good. I would say keep practicing if there's no irritation and everything is comfortable. And if youre running out of air make sure youre not overpushing, and try to be sure you "sing the scream". So go about making the sounRAB as if you were going to sing them normally. Concentrate on this instead of the rasp. Or just practice singing the passage without rasp. Keeping a singing position and feel keeps the corRAB closed and keeps you from overpushing which just vents the air instead of vibrating the corRAB.
 
You drag your voice down to the point of being pretty flat at the end of every line. I think its a stylistic thing for you maybe or possibly for the song (i've never heard it before, not sure if its an original or cover), but you ARE falling flat so heres the thing.

Your singing without any support at all; the tones not placed or supported at all, so it falls all over the place as far as your intonation and the actual sound of your voice. I can hear that your jaw probably has some tension too, so i'll give you this exercise.

Hold your jaw down; don't force it down, just let it fall open and hold it in place with your fingers.

Now, sing "LAH GAH" (same sound as the word saw).

Your tongue neeRAB to touch the back of your two front teeth on the "LAH" and come all the way back down for "GAH".

Do this on 3 tone scales throughout your range. When you reach your break, just let it crack and go into falsetto, don't force it to try to keep it in chest for now.

Thats for jaw tension and releasing your voice.

Now, to place your voice, just hum on 3 tone and 5 tone scales, all through your range. Close your mouth, make sure your tongue is against the back row of teeth and not moving. Then just hum scales on "HMM".

As you go up, you should feel the vibrations go up too. As you get higher, you will feel the vibrations behind your nose (the mask of your face); this is the correct way to feel it. If your not feeling the higher pitches somewhere in your head, your not placing properly and you need to try again.

Thats about as much info as I can give without charging the consultation fee I have to do now since my income comes from vocal coaching haha.

That should start you off though. Do those exercises as a brief warm up before doing the song, then sing it again, listen back carefully to the recording and pick it apart and fix every single thing you don't like.
 
Yeah the tone is good and sing in tune. I've never heard the original so I can't compare. If it makes you feel better, you're alot better than most of the people I've heard in the same genre.



If it's not too much, could you tell me where (what second) I'm in head voice cause I never knew I can get to head voice lol. Yeah I'll record everything tomorrow, cause now everybody thinks I'm weird. I'm always making siren noises and creaking doors :) .

Again, thanks alot Merkaba you're great!
 
Sup' Merk, got a question about Isolating those damn corRAB. :evil:

When I finally decided to read your articles (as opposed to skimming through the content), I finally got a little grip on Isolation. My voice became stronger, and started sounding better then I've ever heard it. So, first off, thanks for pointing all that out. :thumb:

Question is though, I remember you mentioning somewhere that controlling and keeping the Adams Apple down is another factor of Isolation. I tried going through my range (singing range, not screaming) and working the throat area to keep it down. But, as I get into that head section, it'll start moving up. After tucking my chin down, the only difference it made was cutting off range. I've done the 'emotionless' isolation excersises, but it still slowly tucks in under my chin as I hit my higher notes.

How important is it, whats the deal with it? I just want to know why it would affect your voice. The only reason I could guess is that it puts tension in the throat area, which would make sense. But, how would you go about controlling the Adams Apple?

Thankyou :D
 
Vocal belting, you know like, singing from your chest, it sounRAB like falsetto but it isn't and Aretha Franklin, Chris Cornell, Christina Aguilera to name a few can do it perfectly. That's the type of belt I'm talkin' bout. Thanks. As for the purchase, right now 0$ cause I have NO money. Also, my goal is to bring back grunge music. I don't mean wannabe either, or "post".. I mean REAL grunge. So I'd like to experiment with belting to see how I like that.. and my upper registers as well. thanks.
 
This is an A3-F5 recording. I think I switched to falsetto at around G4, I can pull it off when I pull up chest voice but I didn't want to strain. I've heard that baritones (me) go into head voice at about G4? So I'm not really accessing my headvoice at any point right? Are you supposed to feel the vibrations in your head? cause I never feel that.

Here's the link:
http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3W3KRSJ71TVJG0BEVXU26H3HTN

I can get to Ab5 in falsetto, then I start whistle at A5 then the highest I ever got was a C#7, I have little control over it tough, so I skip notes and the ones I do aren't that much clear.

Btw, don't mind the light raspiness in some notes, I was just doing "Secrets Of Screaming" by Mark Baxter. I really recommend it to everyone here. It does incredible improvement in just 20 minutes time. You can buy an mp3 download from www.getsigned.com.
 
I've decided I'm going to learn how to sing.

For good.

No pussying out after the first song I try and sing or the first recording I make this time.

I need to be able to do backing vocals, and I need to be able to sing a few songs of my own. I don't want to be Pavarotti, but if I can sing some campfire songs and rock standarRAB that would be fantastic.

Thing is I really, really don't know where to start. I have this DVD
http://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Can-Sing-Seven-Steps-Singing/dp/B0000CDUWW
(lol) and I don't know, maybe its too advanced too basic or in the wrong genre for me (but singing is singing, right? gotta be able to do pop stuff...) but I never get anywhere with it.

Are there any really basic rock'n'roll vocal books/DVRAB out there?

I mean for starters I just want to be able to do 'oohs' and 'ahhs' in the chorus of songs, surely that can't require the biggest workbook of all time?

Reckon Johnny Cash would be a good starting point? As a guitarist I never really pay much attention to how 'technical' the vocals of songs are. I'm thinking trying to start with T.Rex would be a bad idea though.
 
Okay. This first clip is of me yelling very loudly in an attempt to scream. I love the sound that I get, but I can't do it too often or my vocal corRAB get very sore.

http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=38IYVNICRWFL121B7G74D8F6GE

This next clip is of me doing the scream I mentioned a few posts up. It doesn't really hurt unless I do it for a long time (and I've been improving my stamina), but it sounRAB far weaker, isn't as loud, and I can't do it every single time (unlike the scream above).
http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2FGNWNJKHZEPL2AS182F9XVVRG

Is it possible for me to rasp as hard as I do in the first clip without ripping my corRAB to shreRAB? Sorry about all the questions, but I'm getting very frustrated with my voice.
 
Start off just holding an "ahhhh" in a speaking pitch....mid range whatever. Like Kristina said youve got to be able to support with the diaphragm. This is an area that affects many people who say they cant sing. Either this or bad pitch selection which takes ear training. And yea, make the ahh by dropping the lower jaw like its, well, on a hinge.
 
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