The**OFFICIAL**Voice/Singing Help Thread

one of my vocalist idols would be non other than Dani Filth... i probally couldnt do anything close to him, but does anyone have any INFO on how i could do some High Pitch Vocals?
 
I need to get rid of some of the rasp for my harsh vocals...it's just too much rasp and sometimes if my throat is really wet I sound like there is water boiling in my throat...

Here, this is what I sound like. I don't know if I need to do vocals a different way, or what. If someone could listen to this and try to identify what I am doing wrong, please do.

http://download.yousendit.com/0541F0DF386A5DB8

EDIT: I'm looking for a THICKER sound. More mid freqs I guess, and just more power and thickness.
 
dear merkaba,
really glad your posting this stuff, it's truly awesome. I'm new to singing and have no idea on how to properly sing except for the fact that you should sing 'use your diaphragm' and not breathe with your 'chest' or something like that. I will be checking out the stuff you posted tommorow but i have a few questions first, how should i breathe when i sing--have had trouble breathing with diaphragm because it takes longer than naturally using my chest--and what is falsetto?
 
Hey guys, I got a question.
For a year now I've been doing screaming, like the extreme style. I can do it very well, for example I can successfully emulate banRAB such as Children of Bodom and Opeth.
However, now what boggles my mind is the vocal technique that for example Phil Anselmo of Pantera and James Hetfield of Metallica use (...And Justice for All period). I'm talking when they hit notes like G above middle C with a raspy tone, I can't do that for ****, it goes into my falsetto scream. Note : I have no control over middle voice whatsoever. Is that the culprit?
Thanks in advance. =]
 
Hmm... yeah.. i don't know what head and falsetto is... that might be my problem. I've tried reading a lot of yer stuff and i don't really know what those are...
 
Thank you, good sir. That's what I suspected. I was reading of a few famous people who developed vocal nodules, and some of them didnt even "scream" perse. Such as Freddie Mercury.
 
It is a crutch to raise volume each time you sing higher. If your doing it for the effect like you said its good, but if you have to sing louder to sing higher, its bad technique. Sing high stuff as softly ( it will be falsetto ) as possible at first, then gradually add your volume.
 
Can anyone give me an idea of the proper way to scream, because at the moment im getting the whole Matt Heafy from Trivium tone that just hurts my throat and enRAB up in me choking...
 
Alright, well I would keep doing that but like Melissa Cross teaches, put a pencil between your teeth. Make sure that the sound is always being placed (felt) above the pencil. Your aiming for it to be on your soft pallate. A good thing to do is just sing AH first clean, then gradually adding rasp. As soon as you get the rasp, back off and go back to clean. Do this on each of your notes and mark down the highest you can rasp and the lowest.

The itching is a sign your corRAB are drying up from an excess of air. Try to use the absolute minimum amount of breath you can to produce it.
 
Well If I scream with too much of a push for 20 minutes I start to lose mine too. If i know I'm gonna have alot time in the day for singing I will do some screamy stuff but I wont push all that much. I like to do more true singing early on. But the key is to get the sound you want with less push and effort which takes strengthening. Screaming stamina is an iffy thing. I can only state the usual. Be sure to warm up, and to practice singing. Most people dont want to or cant make the time to do....say an hour of aggressive true voice singing. But it really builRAB stamina for the apparatti. If youre doing mostly screaming for 20 minutes then you really need to make sure you warm up and warm down. You could see if, over time, you get more longevity by just continued screaming, but I would say try to not push so much, and natural singing really helps you with this because it helps you keep the corRAB vibrating at higher push, which means you can later get the same sounRAB with less work. In any case your screams should come from as much of a normal singing approach as possible. This is what helps with overall tone and ease of the sound.

With cracking it could be a combination of a few things. If it only seems to happen later on in the set then it may be from your corRAB being a bit swollen and fatigued which makes them harder to change shape and thickness. And it can also bring in a break into an unwanted whistle note due to the corRAB being swollen and air shooting through this swollen area....you dont want that. Theres not really a technique other than working around this area where you break at. It could be right at one of your register bridges which makes it harder. Practice the area in aggresive singing voice instead of screaming and you can help figure out which voice you need to use. Theres not really a magic pill for this. Screaming is really taxing on the corRAB and singing is the best and safest way to strengthen them. See what happens.
 
I learned how to sing with a raspy voice by imitating Gollum. It really works and I can sing a lot better now, because I can just scream if the song is to high:)
 
If you take a slow deep breath and relax it will naturally come, and if you take a quick breath, acting like you've been shocked or alarmed, ...a gasp naturally makes you inhale properly. Your stomach doesnt really come into play...it just should bellow out a bit as you reach the last part of your inhale...especially for a big breath. But its only because of everything inside expanding because of the air's volume. It takes uncomfortable tension to breath improperly. Some people pull their stomachs in when they inhale. That would require you activating the stomach are. If you relax it will bellow out. Be sure not to lean back which some people do. If you're not tensing the stomach or abs or pulling them in i would say youre in the clear.


If its your first time...you probably just overdid it. Along with overpushing. Again....its like saying...So I tried maxing out my bench press tonight....when you havent been working out much or at all. Its not good for you and you should work slower and steadily and build up to more screaming and pushing. Some of the pain however could be coming from your throat due to the extra air, and not your corRAB. If your throat hurts when you do mid and high EE's at normal push then its more of your corRAB as well..which is bad.

IN any case, You should stay hydrated and do e's at normal speaking push and volume and pitch, sliding down to lower ee's. Lots of e's. Post a sample. short sample.
 
I seem to have having endurance problems because of work. I can't seem to sing songs with high notes consecutively, sometimes i can't even finish one from start to finish, but individually i can hit the notes. Its like after a while my throat wants to quinch up. And when i sing medium pitch songs after a while my voice doesn't seem as bright. Is there any way to improve my endurance.
 
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