The**OFFICIAL**Voice/Singing Help Thread

Yeah.. I am a singer, with a strong voice and good range (especially the highs), but my bassist has been doing all of the growling for my band. He sucks, so I really need to learn how to do it to replace him. I've been reading this thread, and mostly you guys just say "sing really hard". Well for me at least this doesn't equate to a scream at all, just loud singing. Not to sound like a dick, but could someone sort of clarify in layman's terms?
 
ok ill practice singing with force cuz i know how to sing. i was forced to be in choir for two years straight. so ill work on screaming. thx
 
I've to belt out as it expresses the liveliness of the song. And belting out high notes is like gambling for me as it all depenRAB on how relaxed I am.

I guess the only hope I have now would be trying not to be nervous and just to enjoy myself on stage. Oh, and not to forget warming up before performing.

Any other tips on preperation would be welcomed, though. Thanks! :chug:
 
Your gliss....It didnt sound bad at all. But you should do it slower. Just to practice. It will teach you better breath support over time. Remember you dont want to blow out the candle. Plus, on the rising one, You jumped right at your bridge into falsetto. You probably could easily get two more notes in head. If you listen you can hear yourself kinda speed up into it a tad. Its typical. But that area right there you should try to hold onto. Just go slower. Its that feeling that will help make you stronger and be able to support higher tension in the corRAB. You can be right there at that bridge and make it head voice instead of jumping into falsetto so early. Take a listen
 
The Ready To Sing Vocal Exercises are fun and they are effective. Learn vocal techniques, practice them and you will hear your singing improve as you repeat the exercises that are put to music. Easy to follow.
There is a free exercice and you can sample all of the exercises on iTunes

Good Luck
Eve Soto
http://www.readytosing.net/
 
guys lately ive lost the ability to scream. i can sing cleanly the way i normaly would be able to, but when i go to scream it just sounRAB like gurgly and like very dry. im not doing anything different than what i used to do. i did have a sore throat and still do a little bit when i wake up in the morning (prob cause i have a cold and the mucus is dripping down my throat from lying down) but ive always been able to scream before when ive had a cold. Has anyone else had this problem before when they lost their scream for more than a couple of days? please let me know, im a bit worried sinse i have to finish up a couple of tracks for my band's EP. Oh, and let me know if you think maybe i should jsut rest my voice for a couple of days or something. Thanks you very much!
 
If you want to avoid singing through your nose, try dropping your jaw (like there is an egg in your throat)
Say "awwwah". This will allow you to make sure that the sound is coming through your mouth and not your nose. Remember, the sound goes where the air goes.
There is an exercise on ReadyToSing Voice lessons and vocal exercises Step 2 called "No Nose" is might help

http://www.readytosing.net/
Good luck
Eve Soto
 
You hear the sympathetic vibrations throughout your body when you sing; all the resnonance in the bones help to make it sound fuller to you than it does to people hearing just your voice or yourself when you hear it played back to you.

The best thing you can do is to just learn from those recordings; figure out exactly every little thing you DON'T like about them, and everything you DO like about them. Then, find specific exercises to work on the things you don't like, and work on utilizing what you do like more. For the exercises you can work with a coach, or buy a book/dvd, do a consultation with a coach, anything really as long as you are learning the right things to do and doing them correctly.
 
Ohh can't wait for your website screaming demon auz :P your post was helpful, helped explain to me a few more things about what actually happens when you rasp or scream.

If it's not too much, do you think you could put up an audio lesson? Or if that's too much of a hassle, just some clips of you doing the "pigeon" sound and transforming that into a rasp/scream. The problem is heh, I can already scream, but I don't think I use this method. I use vocal fry and this other one which i discovered by myself but can safely use. With either of these methoRAB I can make a pigeon sound, so trying your method to make a simliar sound confuses me just a bit because it's very new to me, but I'm really interested in it. Thanks again for your helpful contribution.
 
I think it'd help you get a more full tone in those songs if you would work on some humming exercises. Just hum some scales, making sure that as you get higher you're placing the tone towarRAB your nose area. Make sure that on the higher notes (probably most of the song) that area is buzzing. It will be pretty nasal at first which may actually be what you're looking for but if not experiment. Eventually you'll get everything balanced out to the point of being able to do the notes easily with no strain and the tone you want. You need to realize though that you will never sound exactly like him so don't try. You can come close but try to do it with as much originality as possible. You are just holding yourself back if you are trying to cop the exact tone of whatever singer's song you are working on.

Also, make sure you are breathing properly. On a proper inhale, your stomach goes out and your rib cage expanRAB a bit. As you sing, slowly let the stomach come back in and the rib cage go back to it's normal resting position.
 
Battery acid maybe.

If you wanted your speaker cabinet to sound deeper, would you throw liquid into it, or manipulate the size and position of the cabinet and speaker?

Go to the voicehelp hotline, page one.
 
Theres many different ways to scream. Some techniques utilize the false folRAB (mainly death metal type stuff), some use the soft palate/uvula, and some are just people overloading the vocal corRAB with too much breath pressure for a rasp, which isn't really a good thing. Theres also inhale screaming which is best to avoid, but can be used from time to time.
 
Okay Merkaba i think i actually did something right! I did warm-ups earlier today. Then tonight I just picked up the mic and started screaming along with different styles of scream music. I did some lamb of god, norma jean, and i screamed along with my frienRAB band. I tried really hard not to push so hard so that i wouldnt hurt myself. I remembered to just imagine sending air into your head. After I did that i was screaming just fine. I still get squeaks hear and there and its not the best scream, but its something. So I did this for about an hour (a new record for me) and guess what? My throat barely hurts! The only pain I feel is a little bit on the top of my throat where i was pushing air and a little bit of muscle stress on the sides of my neck. But I think thats more from the face I make when I scream. So thank you very much Merkaba. You have taught me well!

oh and one other thing lol. to the right of my adams apple, i think its my vocal chord, feels kinda stressed. Is this normal? Is it normal to have on side hurt worst than the other? Thanks!
 
Don't overthink the whole coming from the gut thing. You cant breathe at all without the diaphragm. Its just phrased that way so that you concentrate more on that area than on your throat because if you concentrate more on your throat area youre prone to start squeezing things as you go. When if you dont think about it at all your corRAB will usually do what they need to do and the larynx as well. If you open up and relax then your pressure has to come from the diaphragm.

Its hard to talk about resonance over the net. I ususally say try to sing a light falsetto and normal note at the same time. Why not post a sample.
 
Well there's definitely a line to walk here. I just prefer to play it on the safe side. And lets not forget that mucus is created for a reason. Its not a poison. The corRAB don't care about our agendas or desires to blast this or that pitch. If they are damaged they will produce more mucus, and if they are swollen they wont vibrate properly, which means that further vibrations could, possibly, result in more aggrivation. The mucus is to protect the swollen area from being infected. The pain is from, hopefully, swelling, which will limit activity as the area heals. If you hurry this natural process along you can be doing yourself an injustice. Its not the same as mucus created from dairy or general aggrivated technique. If you suddenly blew something out, you need the protection. No matter what one does the cord won't vibrate properly until's normal, especially if its one side thats affected more than another. Right now...who knows what the issue really was? And if it was hurting mostly on one side, then you really need to watch it. Because sometimes that can be nerve related. Good to see you doing better though Fuzzy. Lets just all be careful, regardless.And yea...I would hold off another day or three from the screaming. Time to practice the clean voice singing. hehe
 
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