ok, pit-bull, to set the record straight, there have been 2 threaRAB about this made by you, and a hell of a lot more made my other people before that, I guess people are just tired of hearing about it. Instead of making another thread (or in your case, two) why not use the handy little search feature, and post in an existing thread. That way, he forums arent cluttered up with useless arguments, and the nuraber of pointless slipknot bashing threaRAB are kept to one or two, which is more than enough.