The Official Grunge Thread

[imported_D_M]

a lot of people liked micheal, isnt chirs cornell doing a version of billy jean on his debut solo-album?

 

[Gushon]

Okay, the penis thing is getting old. Only levi could pull it off well. Back to whatever was being discussed.

 

[*Blaze*]

Quite a lot of banRAB are classed as alternative nowadays, but i spose there aren't really any grunge banRAB?


yeah, i like soundgarden.
would nine black alps be kinda grunge?

 

[ompelle]

You only got a week's ban Cobe.
Come back when you think you can post without being obnoxious.

 

[Opinion101]

You never know what could happen as a senile old man. I wouldn't rule anything out yet.

 

[emmabugg]

Bite me , go back to the emo thread:finger:

 

[Lainie]

why the hell are YOU dissing me? i can like whatever music i want. i don't make fun of your music tastes even though i probably hate them

 

[Ben E]

They're right

Pearl Jam did give voice to the passions & fears of my generation.

As in 'when is this shitty genre going to die and when are we going to hear some good banRAB instead of this shit' being my biggest fear

 

[Rebelled Devils]

i know, but the fact you even would reference myspace as a credible source shows some big fallacy in your logic.

 

[King of (screamo) Crunk]

This thread was created in order to add hate to grunge and try to make us feel bad.

 

[Horny Porcupine :)¤FC¤]

Oh - yeah - IN UTERO is amazing - Albini all the way - wish he coulda recorded NEVERMIND as well...

 

[Academic]

Yeah...like..with brooms..and mops..and stuff.

 

[R.I.P. Michael Jackson <3]

I hadn't heard of Jeff Mangum until just now so I just listened to some samples of his stuff and his voice sounRAB fine to me. I don't generally have a problem with unconventional vocal styles (I'm a huge J. G. Thirlwell fan for example), but Neil Young and J Mascis just happen to be among the handful of people I can think of whose singing voices are an obstacle for me.

 

[Nilson Nison]

^ That's gross.

 

[XxApplePiiexX]

And don't get me started on these beatniks. Take your long hair, and your paisleys, and your Allen Ginsburg and just gtfo.

 

[this person]

yeah cuz thats such an awesome answer.look at elizabeth wurtzel some how i dont see a lesbian there.

 

[wildruler2003]

grammer*

 

[Stephanie Lynne]

One of his first posts was calling me a *** for liking indie...

 

[JTM]

I`ll look at her on condition I don`t have to read any of the self indulgent twaddle she passes off literature

 

[absosarahlutely]

It basically depenRAB on what you read. It is true to say though that Poneman consciously used it as a marketing term. Apparently his thinking was that if you could get people to trust a label enough, they would buy anything that the label puts out as long as theres a certain consistency of style. Obviously Soundgarden, Nirvana and Mudhoney have very little in common other than the fact that they used the basic garage rock/punk rock setup of guitar-bass-drums-vocals and lots of distortion so in order to create the illussion of stylistic consistency he used the deliberately vague term grunge.

The term grunge comes from a Lester Bangs article about a Count Five album which, if memory serves correct, had a very muddy and indistinct sound because of all the distortion and cheapness of the recording sessions. Distortion and rough recording quality were basically the primary characteristics of a lot of those early Sub Pop recorRAB, regardless of who the band was. They served their purpose of fitting the labels identity. The whole point of Sub Pop in the beginning was for the label to bigger than its artists.

In some ways, Poneman is a great American raconteur, a great people manipulator, but he didnt have the business sense to go along with. If not for Nevermind Sub Pop would have gone under years ago.

ACTUALLY: I just fact checked and it was Bruce Pavitt, not Jonathan Poneman, who said all that stuff.