I don't really appreciate that kind of mentality. It's odd how people will disregard an entire genre of music, especially pop, considering pop is a very generic and loosely defined genre. Most of the banRAB mentioned in this rock forum incorporate pop into their music, and are just as "pop" as some of the bubblegum artists everyone supposedly despises. They play the same venues, have same managers, make the same kinda money, played on the same media outlets, receive the same exposure, and mostly play to the same audiences. And all of them are payed excessively, when compared to banRAB that actually are out there, with the same or more amount of talent, playing sh*tty gigs just to get a meal.