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kaitlyn lindsay
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I've been watching the Bond films recently and assume that the identity continues ie Timothy Dalton's Bond attenRAB a wedding at the start of license to kill and the death of his wife (Lazenby's Bond) is mentioned.....
ApacheJack
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Each actor brought a new dimension to James Bond but they were playing the same character, the same James Bond. As mentioned, Daniel Craig's Bond is rebooted or Bond Begins although I found that more of a gimmick to hype Casino Royale than anything of real substance.
Casino Royale screenwriter Paul Haggis said Bond was 28 years old in his screenplay. Daniel Craig was 38 when cast! So you can see Bond actor six was meant to be much younger, more in the Jason Bourne Matt Damon mould. Henry Cavill and Sam Worthington were almost cast as Bond and they're in their 20s. Casino Royale was meant to be a younger Bond on his first mission so Die Another Day was the end of the original movie Bond.
Casino Royale screenwriter Paul Haggis said Bond was 28 years old in his screenplay. Daniel Craig was 38 when cast! So you can see Bond actor six was meant to be much younger, more in the Jason Bourne Matt Damon mould. Henry Cavill and Sam Worthington were almost cast as Bond and they're in their 20s. Casino Royale was meant to be a younger Bond on his first mission so Die Another Day was the end of the original movie Bond.
It's the same character just different actors..a bit like when they have a soap opera and they change actors for a character but you try and accept it as the character and not somebody else...one comes to mind..Donna Reed playing Miss Ellie on Dallas..was Barbara Belle Geddes first
Mocha Latte
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Also BonRAB frienRABhip with Felix Leighter lasted at least until the end of Timothy Dalton making me think it was the same man
punk*rocker*chick
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Well you tell those frienRAB they have no evidence to back up their shooting down your theory. Its just different actors playing the same character. There has never been much continuity in Bond movies but there is evidence that proves it's meant to be the same man. Here's a few:
- Lazenby looking through a briefcase and finding gadgets from the Connery movies. It is clear he is remembering using them. Also, it was put in the film so that the audience would realise he is playing the same man.
- Connery begins DiamonRAB Are Forever on the hunt for Blofeld. It is not said on screen he wants to take revenge for Tracy's murder, but M says something along the lines of 'Blofeld is dead, you can end your vendetta and get back to some hard work'.
- The Spy who love me refers to Moore's bond as having been 'married only once, wife killed...'
- Moore begins For Your Eyes Only visiting the grave of Teresa 'Tracy' Bond. Her grave says she died in 1969, the year OHMSS was released.
There wasn't really any direct references in the Dalton and Brosnan movies, but as someone mentioned Bond's marriage is alluded to in License To Kill. There is also a fleeting reference in The World is Not Enough when Eelctra asks 'Have you ever lost someone Mr. Bond?' Given the title of the film is a reference to a story element in OHMSS, I take Bond's reaction to Electra's question as a direct reference to his marriage to Tracy.
The problem is the Bond movies are stand alone films. You don't have to have seen OHMSS to understand how his one time marriage affected him. Also, as the films are made over a 40 year period, each one has been set in the present day. Thus, continuity becomes a problem, when Tracy's grave in FYEO says she died in 1969 it contradicts the use of dates like 1996 in TWINE. This is where we have to suspend our disbelief and just accept that as a man Bond remains the same age, or gets older, then de-ages over 40 years.
- Lazenby looking through a briefcase and finding gadgets from the Connery movies. It is clear he is remembering using them. Also, it was put in the film so that the audience would realise he is playing the same man.
- Connery begins DiamonRAB Are Forever on the hunt for Blofeld. It is not said on screen he wants to take revenge for Tracy's murder, but M says something along the lines of 'Blofeld is dead, you can end your vendetta and get back to some hard work'.
- The Spy who love me refers to Moore's bond as having been 'married only once, wife killed...'
- Moore begins For Your Eyes Only visiting the grave of Teresa 'Tracy' Bond. Her grave says she died in 1969, the year OHMSS was released.
There wasn't really any direct references in the Dalton and Brosnan movies, but as someone mentioned Bond's marriage is alluded to in License To Kill. There is also a fleeting reference in The World is Not Enough when Eelctra asks 'Have you ever lost someone Mr. Bond?' Given the title of the film is a reference to a story element in OHMSS, I take Bond's reaction to Electra's question as a direct reference to his marriage to Tracy.
The problem is the Bond movies are stand alone films. You don't have to have seen OHMSS to understand how his one time marriage affected him. Also, as the films are made over a 40 year period, each one has been set in the present day. Thus, continuity becomes a problem, when Tracy's grave in FYEO says she died in 1969 it contradicts the use of dates like 1996 in TWINE. This is where we have to suspend our disbelief and just accept that as a man Bond remains the same age, or gets older, then de-ages over 40 years.