The Fresh 2008 Captain Planet Discussion Thingy

the 80's TMNT (both the cartoon and the Archie Comics) also did envoronmental stuff as well. My favorite line comes from Shredder's Mom where a scientist says:

"The Earth's temperature will gradually rise, casuing the polar ice caps to melt, and your nice beachfront property to rapidly decrease in value"
 
I'm not deluded at all, it's just incredibly irritating to see y'all endlessly diss this show, especially when no attention is given to the positives. And dissing the '60's Batman is just asking for trouble.
 
Except that many of us are giving civil and well thought out flaws of the show. Did any of my comments come across as "Captain Planet sucks"? Did Caswin say "Only basement losers watch Captain Planet"?

Bringing up the flaws of a show doesn't automatically equal a diss or bashing.
 
That's actually pretty lol worthy.

So environmental messages in children's cartoons are not problematic, nor were they all that uncommon. BUT Planet's messages were, among other things, included a general distrust of any capitalist buisness, and the aformentioned hatred of children of all things (Numbers Game).
 
Yeah, that was a grammatical error, but the way you CP's haters carry on, endlessly criticizing the show (although I'll admit some of those flaws are right) while frequently giving little-no attention to the positives, sooner or later, you're going to get attention.
 
Another problem i had with CP is that they only focused on environmental issues (save for the AIDS episode and the ep with lotten plunder as an arms dealer, the latter plot which was already done in the transformers ep "the quintesson journal). I mean, there were all kinds of other problems they could deal with like say letting fame go to your head or even some non-educational plot like space aliens invading earth or one of the villains teaming up with the planeteers to face some greater global threat. I mean, there were reasons that there were never woodsy owl or smokey the bear cartoons (there were comics, but thats neither here nor there), its because you can only stretch one premise so far.
 
Do kids even know who captain planet IS nowadays? Its not like his cartoon has aired on tv recently. That would be like having an "above the influence" ad with the silverhawks.
 
Beat: I've read that link before, and despite how obviously slated Captain Planet is, that essay's pretty slanted itself (yet also funny). I think I have the right to question things like this:


I've heard Turner's a jerk before, but did he really do this?
 
As long as our comments remain valid and civil, then there shouldn't be any problem. I'm not doing it to get attention, just to let my comment out.
 
Most of us are just letting our comments out, but I have a feeling that so long as we are giving mixed/not relentlessly, unexplainedly positive opinions, we'll be treated as though we're being uncivil. Frankly, I'm a little tired of this derailment. Captain Planet is a series that a lot of people just don't like, but they'll give reasons why. Until I get a reason beyond "it's better than newer show X", we're having our discussion derailed.
 
That's the best way to sum it up. But when you get preachy and snotty about teaching lessons, people shout "Propaganda." and ignore you. If you nag, people won't listen.

Look at Fat Albert. they got into some serious lessons, and the feelings of the writers and Bill Cosby came across the series, but it was fun to watch. But then again, those characters were lovable.

I really can't say any characters from CP were lovable. The Captain was outright arrogant, and his terrible "Pun Fu" (the term for how Superheroes always pound the villains, and whip out snappy word play) was just unbearable at some points.

If you want a good show, you need one or two of the main characters to be lovable. I agree with the character deconstruction. They're all stereotypes, and the American one of course has to be the reluctant jerk of the group. As if the US is the only one that causes problems in the world (pollution especially).
 
I'm going through the review again (I know I liked it last time)... and I can't find anything on a miniseries, by Ted Turner or otherwise, called The Cold War or a John Stossel special called "The Value of Greed" apart from the webpage itself. Can anyone shed some light on this?
 
You know what really dragged the show down? Captain Planet, the character. I swear, the show would've been much better if the characters had to rely on their wits and skill in handling their powers to solve problems, instead of say, "Ooooops, I give up. This problem is too big. I'll have some deux ex machina solve it for me!" Is that a lesson we want to teach kids? If things get too hard and complicated, depend on a magicalbluegreenmulletman to solve it for you? Captian Planet ended up infantizing all the characters because he took all the challenge away from the script and plot.
 
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