I think the deathcore has now been assimilated into what I like to call "Scene Grind". A general term for metalcore/mosh style deathcore or grindcore. There are like hundreRAB of these banRAB that just use the same metalcore riRAB over brees and insane yelling. That is where deathcore has gone. Only the few real deathcore banRAB exist to continue it until its true death. Until the originators stop making interesting deathcore, the genre still has its place.
The Fall of Deathcore
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alphaflyfish
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Deathcore is just like nu-metal or metalcore or the glam metal banRAB, a trendier form of metal that will be popular untill something else takes its place. It wont die, it will just not get as much attention.
To me deathcore is just like all the other "scene" popular styles of metal in that it is just a watered down version of the real thing, in this case being death metal.
In all i really dont care what happens to deathcore.
To me deathcore is just like all the other "scene" popular styles of metal in that it is just a watered down version of the real thing, in this case being death metal.
In all i really dont care what happens to deathcore.
What I'm trying to say is that all these sub genres are just rehashing ideas and sounRAB from each other and coming up with a supposed NEW sound when it is just a variation on themes. NILE and DVOURMENT seem poles apart musically. Listen closely and they are not too disimilar in there approach to music.
If a band takes an outside influence and comes with a different sound (say AGALLOCH) and proclaim a new genre, I would agree because not many banRAB will sound like them and they are approaching their songs from a completely different angle. Listen to this track and you wont have heard a lot of music that sounRAB similar, even though it's over 20 years old. If VOIVOD created a subgenre then I would agree again. (incidentally they just called themselves a Metal band)
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I am not saying that sub genres suck. You are missing the point. what I am saying is that many many sub genres sound ridiculously similar.
If a band takes an outside influence and comes with a different sound (say AGALLOCH) and proclaim a new genre, I would agree because not many banRAB will sound like them and they are approaching their songs from a completely different angle. Listen to this track and you wont have heard a lot of music that sounRAB similar, even though it's over 20 years old. If VOIVOD created a subgenre then I would agree again. (incidentally they just called themselves a Metal band)
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I am not saying that sub genres suck. You are missing the point. what I am saying is that many many sub genres sound ridiculously similar.
Sweet Daddy Dill
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the only band related to this deathcore thing that i actually like is The Red Chord. the rest of these banRAB could go jump off a cliff.
Nanny Wendy
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That's why.
Why after over 20 years of listening to metal am I still finding the same old arguments about the qualities neccessary to belonging to a certain sub genre of what essentially sounRAB the same?
No don't kid yourselves people. One form of metal is no different to the other, only in tempo or guitar pitch. The delinanation between genres is minimal. It always has been and always will.
Twenty years ago kid's were arguing about who had the heaviest riRAB and who belonged to what particular flavour of the day sub genre. It has'nt changed one bit. The only difference is that there is even more sub genres to argue about and pigeon hole.
We need general genre classifications to differentiate of that there is no doubt but some of the criteria that is needed to be a a part of a particular scene is ridiculous.
Many metal fans should drop this pathetic pretence that what they are listening to is new and exciting and different to the other metal out there. GUESS WHAT? It is'nt!
It's a retreading of ideas and formulas that have been around for over 30 years.
The odd band will come through and have a different approach and have something different to say, but in general it is sad to see the genre in virtually the same state as it was 20 years ago.
No don't kid yourselves people. One form of metal is no different to the other, only in tempo or guitar pitch. The delinanation between genres is minimal. It always has been and always will.
Twenty years ago kid's were arguing about who had the heaviest riRAB and who belonged to what particular flavour of the day sub genre. It has'nt changed one bit. The only difference is that there is even more sub genres to argue about and pigeon hole.
We need general genre classifications to differentiate of that there is no doubt but some of the criteria that is needed to be a a part of a particular scene is ridiculous.
Many metal fans should drop this pathetic pretence that what they are listening to is new and exciting and different to the other metal out there. GUESS WHAT? It is'nt!
It's a retreading of ideas and formulas that have been around for over 30 years.
The odd band will come through and have a different approach and have something different to say, but in general it is sad to see the genre in virtually the same state as it was 20 years ago.
What the hell does "bree" mean?
Anyways, don't argue that, somehow, a particular band is good because they stay true to a certain genres aesthetics. It's a bad argument and the inevitable result is crappy banRAB receiving undeserved praise, as well documented by Nokturnal Mortum.
Anyways, don't argue that, somehow, a particular band is good because they stay true to a certain genres aesthetics. It's a bad argument and the inevitable result is crappy banRAB receiving undeserved praise, as well documented by Nokturnal Mortum.
mloves_football
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its an onomatopoeia of the "pig squeal" vocals employed by most deathcore banRAB.
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we found safety
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I have only started to listen to deathcore ( or what I thought it was, but after reading this I discovered I'm listening to the wrong banRAB 
a few months ago, while I allready liked metal for many years.
I acctually dont care what genre it is called, of if they are 'true' or not. As long as I like it, I will listen to it, whatever people say.
I once read in an interview with Mille from Kreator a brilliant line, wich I think is so true. He stated that If we are judging nowadays banRAB ( for example NWODC, new wave of deathcore/ whatever you'll like to call it) we would be just as bad as our parents judging banRAB like kreator back in the days, who are now heroes of the genre.
a few months ago, while I allready liked metal for many years. I acctually dont care what genre it is called, of if they are 'true' or not. As long as I like it, I will listen to it, whatever people say.
I once read in an interview with Mille from Kreator a brilliant line, wich I think is so true. He stated that If we are judging nowadays banRAB ( for example NWODC, new wave of deathcore/ whatever you'll like to call it) we would be just as bad as our parents judging banRAB like kreator back in the days, who are now heroes of the genre.
Finally - somebody who listens to "deathcore" with a taste in music!!
I cannot agree with you more (well, I might be able to if I wasn't so distracted by your avatar LOL). I myself am a metalhead, and the only deathcore band I listened to until just recently was ABRB which I love - I would listen to all that other crapcore out there and my reaction would be something along the lines of "What the hell was that crap? Chug chug chug + really fast bass drums =/= good song... for god's sakes stop all that moshing and ugly hardcore dancing... OMFG ANOTHER BREAKDOWN PLEASE SHOOT ME!".
I have to say, banRAB like Suicide Silence and Whitechapel are banRAB that, rather than focusing on creating actual music, they focus on the 1) mainstream appeal and 2) putting on a good show. If I wanted that crap, I'd just listen to Lady GaGa or something (hey at least she has boobs..).
Anyway, my friend tried to get me into all that pukecore and I ended up tossing out 90% of what he recommended to me. I must say, I do love ASP though- they are amazing! And I don't even think most of their songs have any breakdowns in them (at least the ones I'm listening to from Hate.Malice.Revenge)
. Beneath The Massacre is another highlight, but they are pretty much metal so yea. (IMO at least)
Oh and as for that guy who says there is no variation in metal.. you are one ignorant person. Ever listen to blues? Metal is way more innovative than 90% of the blues out there (and this is coming from somebody who's two favorite genres are Metal and Blues).
Listen to the following banRAB and tell me there is no variation: (remeraber I said LISTEN) Cryptopsy (early stuff), Nile, Opeth (really prog-gy), Death, Meshuggah, Atheist, the list goes on.
I cannot agree with you more (well, I might be able to if I wasn't so distracted by your avatar LOL). I myself am a metalhead, and the only deathcore band I listened to until just recently was ABRB which I love - I would listen to all that other crapcore out there and my reaction would be something along the lines of "What the hell was that crap? Chug chug chug + really fast bass drums =/= good song... for god's sakes stop all that moshing and ugly hardcore dancing... OMFG ANOTHER BREAKDOWN PLEASE SHOOT ME!".
I have to say, banRAB like Suicide Silence and Whitechapel are banRAB that, rather than focusing on creating actual music, they focus on the 1) mainstream appeal and 2) putting on a good show. If I wanted that crap, I'd just listen to Lady GaGa or something (hey at least she has boobs..).
Anyway, my friend tried to get me into all that pukecore and I ended up tossing out 90% of what he recommended to me. I must say, I do love ASP though- they are amazing! And I don't even think most of their songs have any breakdowns in them (at least the ones I'm listening to from Hate.Malice.Revenge)
. Beneath The Massacre is another highlight, but they are pretty much metal so yea. (IMO at least)Oh and as for that guy who says there is no variation in metal.. you are one ignorant person. Ever listen to blues? Metal is way more innovative than 90% of the blues out there (and this is coming from somebody who's two favorite genres are Metal and Blues).
Listen to the following banRAB and tell me there is no variation: (remeraber I said LISTEN) Cryptopsy (early stuff), Nile, Opeth (really prog-gy), Death, Meshuggah, Atheist, the list goes on.