The Explain Why You Like This Album ('cause i don't understand) Thread

I love that album - don't know why. There is a saying that goes something like "your reputation precedes you" (not you specifically but "you" meaning like anyone out there) for me that's true about Marquee Moon, because I read some reveiws about it, and read about the band in guitar magazines, long before I bought the CD. Richard Lloyd is very interesting person/gutiar player. Television is sometimes called Punk sometimes, Proto-Punk, the latter is a retronym given to banRAB that were influential to Punk. He didn't consider Television as proto Punk, he simply thought of Television "street" music. I can understand why Television is labelled as Art Punk, because when I listen to it I approach it the same way as "art music" it something where you listen to developement of different musical ideas, within the song. An other example of what I would find intellectually interesting as music is Duster/Stratosphere, it's space-rock and not something you would play at a dance part for your frienRAB. But it is an album that is worth a listen. I mean I don't know why I mention duster/stratosphere, but I was thinking hey that is another example of an album that doesn't jump out and grabs you with it's catchy-ness of a Pop tune, but is intellectually provocative when you soley concentrate on the guitars.

I wouldn't totally give up on Richard Lloyd, I mean like at the time he joined forces with Robert Quine and both of them had made a formidable contribution to Mathew Sweet's album, Girlfriend.
 
Funny, I was playing that album on a car ride just the other day.

I dunno how you can not like it. I certainly don't know how you can find it boring if you like all that sedated folk stuff that Ethan and Swim are so crazy about.

Buckley is an amazing singer, not just in a technical sense, he just has one of the best voices. He also comes up with these gorgeous little guitar parts that serve the songs just wonderfully. Grace just has a very heavenly etheral sound to it, by far one of the best albums of the 90s, and Buckley was probably the most promising singer/songwriter of that era.

Yeah that's right.

Jeff Buckley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elliott Smith
 
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Doesn't count unless you legitimately don't like all the songs on there. I find it hard to believe that you can't find something enjoyable about that album.

I feel like Any Colour You Like is a drug trip without the drugs...I seriously feel hazy listening to that song.
 
Music is not only something you play, but something you listen to. This forum is for music. Not musicians only. Music listeners, I'm sure, have something to say about music.
Also, if a band is singing about what fun it is to perform abortions but they have never performed abortions, that is one thing. If the merabers of said band happen to be life-long dedicated merabers of a an anti-abortion activist group... i would be perturbed. Why are you singing about how fun it is to perform abortions when you have a deeply held belief that abortion is the ultimate evil?
That, to me, is the difference between singing about something you do not practice, and promoting something with your music that is the exact opposite of your most deeply held ideals.

I'm not really sure where you are getting my apologist standpoint from. i was merely responding to the statement you made that Varg knows nothing about extreme (suggesting that Tom Araya does?) by mentioning that if you were to compare the two, Varg is most definitely the more extreme. I had previously stated that I don't necessarily agree with Varg's ideals or actions.

And, no, attacking someone in a rude way is not effective, even if you think they are going around in circles.

You, however, are going around in circles because you have attempted to deter me from MY OWN OPINION with the same tactics (offering up faulty analogies) over and over again.

Why exactly is it that you are so determined to deter me from my opinion? The point of this thread is to offer reasons why you like a band/album that others don't like. Not to attack people based on their reasons for disliking them.



To be honest... I'm not splitting hairs. I'm merely suggesting that I think the amount of metal banRAB with indiscernible lyrics has the majority over the amount of metal banRAB with lyrics you can understand.

For instance, the only genres (that I can think of) in which you can usually hear the lyrics are classic metal and power metal. Classic metal is a dead genre. There are no new classic metal banRAB and there are very few modern banRAB who imitate classic banRAB such as iron maiden or black sabbath. That leaves one genre... power metal... which is not (in my experience) the largest of the metal genres. You could even include thrash as having usually clear and i would still say that:

Death and black metal (I think) are the largest genres (and include many sub-genres) and usually you cannot hear the lyrics. Therefore... I do not consider it to be splitting hairs to suggest that the majority of metal banRAB that exist or have existed have vocals with indiscernible lyrics.
 
I like my Zappa, Residents, Henry Cow, John Zorn and Mr. Bungle.

So no, it's not just because I think Beefheart is "weird and pretentious", though I do think he's very pretentious, the problem is people shouldn't confuse challenging music with great music. While the banRAB I mentioned do things outside of the norm they're still very talented composers and musicians, which is not the opinion I have when it comes to Beefheart, a think his band does most of the work anyway.

He had some talented backing musicians, Zoot Horn Rollo had some great guitar licks and Trout Mask Replica wouldn't have been sh*t without him I don't think.

Beefheart himself was an interesting personality, that goes without saying, I don't however consider him a musical genius. I appreciate his massive influence but that can't stop me from liking just about everything Beefheart influenced more than Beefheart himself.

Besides, the best stuff he did was when he sang for Zappa.
 
;701653']Yeah, Television are pretty overrated. See No Evil was the only track that really grew on me. As long as you don't think of them as punk like some people here have said, it'll be fine (too complex and technical really to be punk).

Speaking of overrated: Talk Talk, "Laughing Stock". I know the experimentalism mafia is going to burn down my house for saying that, but I don't care. Their tracks are just way too spacey and delicate for me, I prefer post-rock to have some more punch behind it like Don Caballero or Faraquet (thanks for all the recommendations by the way).
 
Personally I can`t see the issue here. Whether they`re christians or not I find quite unimportant. If they`re christians and want to sing about satan or anything else for that matter, its just their topic of choice and nothing more! Metal has always had a shock value and Slayer are just part of that image.

Music is entertainment for the listener, and whether those making that entertainment practice what they preach is quite irrelevant really.
 
I feel the same way, too... if you swap the word "loved" for the phrase "laughed at".
I'm so ahead of my time, I could tell that rap-metal was horrible even when it was good.
 
Repeated listens do pay off with a lot of albums, I've only listened to this about 4 times. Maybe it neeRAB a few more, what's the lyric content of it? Why's it got such a classy status? It's pretty much cited as a perfect album, 10/10 - and I just don't hear it. Then again not many of R.E.M's albums really do it for me. Bittersweet sound? All I really heard was boring and repetitive :(
 
Prog-Folk exists but she isn't remotely like it. I like her because she has
A)A voice which fits her music perfectly.
B)She has fantastic harp playing skills(an infamously hard instrument to play)
C)Great lyrics
IMO, she has released 3 flawless albums and I love them more with every listen. Boobs went on a rant in the shoutbox about how Indie Folk and Newsoms connection to it and I wasn't having it. She sounRAB like a Folk artist lifted right from the 60s and I often compare her to some of my favs like Fairport Convention, and you know what? She's just as good.
 
I'm not a vocalist but I'm the same way, it's very hard to look past a singer that puts me off, no matter how good the music. I can ignore lyrics no problem, but I can't ignore vocals.
 
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