Those are all good points, if shutdown for legal reasons I would assume that you really have no say over the timing .Also if my fellow staffers were getting snatched up by the authorities I would be spending my time covering my tracks and dissociating myself from the place not modding and tending to it's now non-existent interests.
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The Conspiracy Theory Behind SCT and FTWR Closure
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Those are all good points, if shutdown for legal reasons I would assume that you really have no say over the timing .Also if my fellow staffers were getting snatched up by the authorities I would be spending my time covering my tracks and dissociating myself from the place not modding and tending to it's now non-existent interests.
King Impossible
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The question is: are the (ex-) users safe? Should we encrypt our HDDs? Are our IP's safe? How about those who were using https?
07_ShelbyGT500
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Those are all good points, if shutdown for legal reasons I would assume that you really have no say over the timing .Also if my fellow staffers were getting snatched up by the authorities I would be spending my time covering my tracks and dissociating myself from the place not modding and tending to it's now non-existent interests.
a (maybe 2) staffer was arrested... (pedro one of the two?).... maybe the bust was not directly related to the site..........
looks like they are closing just as precaution............
I am not that sure anymore Burnsy mate. I ve only heard about those two foreign 'idiots' on forums and one site, not on the news or papers or something that would make it a bit more official. I am a bit paranoid but sites closing down like that with lame reasons its more than fishy
Fair one mate... to be honest I stopped really following the whole U*-* saga. You may have a good point, in so far as IF indeed it was only through 'DVD sales' then the copywrite agencies would be having a press field day by now... unless of course they have more targets in their sites and not announcing things till their 'blitz' is over... but again, it's all heresay and speculation...
Fuck knows what's going on tbh :lol:
Jack S. Buy more ammo!
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Just because there are rumors spreading doesn't mean he lacks credibility. If you have any substantial reason to suggest his credibility is questionable, I'd like to hear it for the first time.
Those other notices were prespam done by a p2p guy with a beef against Feeling.
I see you got luv for the guy.Dunno what its owed to but its been recognized.You may not have noticed this but of all the people who've been fanboying him around youse probably the only one who's tried to stand up for him since all this started.
Onto your point though,I don't think his credibility is questionable,I personally do appreciate the guy for what he's done for P2P over the years.He's earned his place in the table of BT legends and I don't think anybody can take that away from him.
That said,I think its not allowed by law to trust somebody who doesn't really give a rat's ass about anything other than self and own.That coupled with a little touch of ego and self importance makes for a very toxic combination.
Can't help it though,what's this luv owed to if I may ask?
you mean she
you are probably right,so what do you think this premeditated shut down is owed to?
that's some of the stupidest shit i've heard so far
sure, the people who live off their parents probably don't understand but how far could some donation bucks get you? a months rent at most?
pfft
how soon some people forget....these guys put 4+ years of their lives into making the greatest torrent tracker on the net. It's plain idiotic to think that amount of hard work would ever be compromised for small amount of money.
you are probably right,so what do you think this premeditated shut down is owed to?
dramajadedancer96
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Those are all good points, if shutdown for legal reasons I would assume that you really have no say over the timing .Also if my fellow staffers were getting snatched up by the authorities I would be spending my time covering my tracks and dissociating myself from the place not modding and tending to it's now non-existent interests.
they are acting pretty normal and calm for people getting arrested,last month massive donations request looks well prepared and bam the tracker and the money is gone,will anew STN arises?
Marin3 muscl3
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No you have it all wrong.The first thing they did was taking down /donate.php.One would think that they would have started with /browse.php if indeed it was coz of apparent file sharing legalities.I don't think am being cryptic here and I figure the sharp ones already figured the drill here.Don't trust anything feeling or his subjects tell you as regards this.
/donate.php is the root of all their problems.Let me look for something from their last ownage nfo.
they have to save their earnings first,whose gonna pay for the new car ,Deja Vu :whistling (SuperTorrents Scandal back in the days)
anyhow what about FTWR,nothing about new home or something for their members? looks weird or perhaps skittles will help
Miss Strawberry
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There seems to be some myopic viewpoints around here. To put it in perspective these "larger than life" trackers have been around for 4+ years. Relative to this time span, uk-t's recent shutdown could also count as about the same time as this SCT and ftwr fiasco. More importantly, I take issue with what's happened to TPB recently and most importantly Mininova being rendered useless.
Mininova may be the key to the puzzle in all of this that sparked some domino effect. Think about it this way. These gargantuan shutdowns of trackers that stood the (internet) test of time follow some trend.
My two cents is that this had nothing to do with money. I fear that there may be some upcoming P2P legislation followed up with a security crackdown as observed in the SCT case.
Mininova may be the key to the puzzle in all of this that sparked some domino effect. Think about it this way. These gargantuan shutdowns of trackers that stood the (internet) test of time follow some trend.
My two cents is that this had nothing to do with money. I fear that there may be some upcoming P2P legislation followed up with a security crackdown as observed in the SCT case.
Now, what I would like to think is that they found out they got compromised and they are closing down the trackers so we could be safe. I could live with that, even appreciate it. But they didn't come with any statement, or at least a reasonable one. All we know is that they've asked for money and then shut down the tracker at the end of the month. I wonder if sct payed their bills for December...
I don't really have any feelings towards Feeling. I'm not sad or glad that SCT is gone. But it is interesting to see what develops. If you read my posts carefully, you'll see that I have not concluded that everything is all Kosher. I'm waiting to see whether the news picks up when the arrests, if any, are announced and what the charges are. I don't know. Maybe I'm just playing advocatus diaboli.
Rick Samuelson
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i dont think it was premeditated
little money with eyes.
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So whats the thing with FWTR? Are they going the skittles way to play it safe?
I mean you would expect a site like that to have quaterly backups atleast .. It just dsnt make sense that they have a backup thats 11 months old .. or are they just cashing in on the RIP hype to move onto something else ..
I mean you would expect a site like that to have quaterly backups atleast .. It just dsnt make sense that they have a backup thats 11 months old .. or are they just cashing in on the RIP hype to move onto something else ..
If they are facing criminal charges, that does not automatically mean the authorities who arrested the staffer have the ability to shut down the site. They may not have jurisdiction for example. But upon hearing that the rest of the staff surely were shaken up and I think they just decided it wasn't worth running the site anymore. I don't think I would continue either, but I would want to pass it along to someone else.
There are three reasons why a site will legitimately drop: Financial, technical and Legal. Lessor reasons such as dropping membership and disillusionment of staff may be other reasons but imho, none of the above seem to apply to ScT. The site was up and running, donations were high and steady, no news (ofc we'd read about it in the press ala Oink and others) of a police takedown; so, what's left?
What we saw was an internal decision by the owner/admin, to pull the pin on the site with one day notice. This and all above is fact - not speculation.
With that said, someone explain to me why a healthy, active site goes poof in one day when there appears to be no external reason for that. The reason then rests internally, and likely personally. As Sherlock Holmes says: Eliminate all the possibilities and whatever you are left with, however improbable or seemingly unlikely, is the reason.
I also suggest that site admin of ScT or anywhere don't just wake up one day and decide to pull a pin on a site unless there is financial, technical or direct legal difficulty. Either way it seems a premeditated and planned action.
What we saw was an internal decision by the owner/admin, to pull the pin on the site with one day notice. This and all above is fact - not speculation.
With that said, someone explain to me why a healthy, active site goes poof in one day when there appears to be no external reason for that. The reason then rests internally, and likely personally. As Sherlock Holmes says: Eliminate all the possibilities and whatever you are left with, however improbable or seemingly unlikely, is the reason.
I also suggest that site admin of ScT or anywhere don't just wake up one day and decide to pull a pin on a site unless there is financial, technical or direct legal difficulty. Either way it seems a premeditated and planned action.
I don't really have any feelings towards Feeling. I'm not sad or glad that SCT is gone. But it is interesting to see what develops. If you read my posts carefully, you'll see that I have not concluded that everything is all Kosher. I'm waiting to see whether the news picks up when the arrests, if any, are announced and what the charges are. I don't know. Maybe I'm just playing advocatus diaboli.
well just keep spouting it till its true.I heard from this guy that some arrests have been made in the uk(again),two people he says and if he's not mistaking,they are in for tunneling donation money,like these guys just don't learn.Dj quit BT for this very same shit yet these guys just picked up on it like they knew better.Spx has called feeling a security n00b dozens of times and I think am starting to believe that.
Just ask feeling what happened with the email hashlist of guys he was SysOping on scenenetworks way when.No actually I'll tell you what happened,the site was basically turned inside out and everyone's IP and email addresses got dumped on pastebin(at the time,guys didn't bother registering on trackers with [email protected] so you can imagine how much they got exposed).I had a chance to look at this thing albeit a while ago and man the thing read like a radio hit list of who is who in BT today.Honestly I dunno where he gets his ego from but he really has alot to learn.
I guess this security naivety kinda explains the record breaking scene ownages and the guy who once claimed to have faked over 1TB of upload.
There are three reasons why a site will legitimately drop: Financial, technical and Legal. Lessor reasons such as dropping membership and disillusionment of staff may be other reasons but imho, none of the above seem to apply to ScT. The site was up and running, donations were high and steady, no news (ofc we'd read about it in the press ala Oink and others) of a police takedown; so, what's left?
What we saw was an internal decision by the owner/admin, to pull the pin on the site with one day notice. This and all above is fact - not speculation.
With that said, someone explain to me why a healthy, active site goes poof in one day when there appears to be no external reason for that. The reason then rests internally, and likely personally. As Sherlock Holmes says: Eliminate all the possibilities and whatever you are left with, however improbable or seemingly unlikely, is the reason.
I also suggest that site admin of ScT or anywhere don't just wake up one day and decide to pull a pin on a site unless there is financial, technical or direct legal difficulty. Either way it seems a premeditated and planned action.
4 reasons
1. Financial
2. Technical
3. Legal
4. Jew
Now, what I would like to think is that they found out they got compromised and they are closing down the trackers so we could be safe. I could live with that, even appreciate it. But they didn't come with any statement, or at least a reasonable one. All we know is that they've asked for money and then shut down the tracker at the end of the month. I wonder if sct payed their bills for December...
They did mention something about deleting their databases to secure their members here tho mate:
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-news-section-95/t-uk-t-shut-down-good-database-deleted-375273