The Cleveland Show - "Pilot" - Talkback [9/27]

Cool 1970's like theme song.

And I guess we saw the last Peter Griffin/Cleveland destroying the house to make Cleveland falling out of the bathtub gag again.
 
It's good so far. I liked the parts wth the Family Guy cast. It did sort of confused me a bit over whether it was The Cleaveland Show or Family Guy (you never know when shows get new timeslots).
 
Man What happened to Cleavland Jr, He went from being lil hyperactive kid to a tubby kid with glaeeses, i guess he's gonna be their cris.

Also Tuny lil theme!

& LOL at stewie..C'mon He gets a show!
 
It was... okay. Future episodes are going to have to prove that this show has a purpose instead of just being Family Guy Lite. Right now it feels weird. When they did a cutaway gag it felt like all of a sudden the show turned back into Family Guy and then after that, it reverted. It felt more like a reference to FG than a natural part of the show. But at the same time, I'm not sure what the show is supposed to feel like anyway.

I'll give them some time to figure it out, but it's going to be harder to break away from FG considering that Cleveland comes from there. American Dad was more of a clean slate.
 
I think we need to stop comparing it to Family Guy and realize these are different characters with different personalities(somewhat).

We need to judge it like we don't know Seth's writing (it's hard, but we gotta)

This will probably be like American Dad, it will find it's footing and move away from the Family Guy likeness eventually, we just need to give it time.
 
The episode was okay. The beginning with the Family Guy setup was pretty well done-most spin offs have the title character already left the original setting- I really didn't think Cleveland could be a main character because he's so dull, but after the car Federline part, I see he can actually be assertive main character.

My problems are just Cleveland Jr. and Rallo. Jr should've stayed the same, and I just picture Rallo being older, like 12-16 or something.

Still, it's better than I expected, but still suffered from the problems I predicted.
 
I remember, somewhat, what he said. Essentially it boiled down to:

In a cartoon, you have a problem and then by the end of the episode it must be resolved. Quagmire isn't the type that could learn a wholesome lesson, it's just completely out of character for him.

Cleveland on the other hand, can. Joe, unfortunately, is still a punching bag in Family Guy, so he can't leave.
 
I personally think that a Quagmire spinoff would be awful. Quagmire is an OK character, but he's not a leading character. Not every character needs to be placed front and center.

A series built around Quagmire wouldn't work. First, it would have to be a very different Quagmire than the one we know on Family Guy; you couldn't just have every story where Glenn is horny as a hoot owl and chasing skirts all of the time.

Second, as previously stated, Quagmire rarely, if ever, learns from his past mistakes, so it would be hard to have moral lessons for him to learn.

Third, Quagmire is a bachelor. FOX would probably want to give him a family for the series, or worse, just stick Quagmire with a couple kids of making that he'd be forced to raise (Yuck!) in order to make the series more family friendly, which would completely work against his character (see reason #1).
 
Yeah, pretty much sums up the facts.

People would say Quagmire should get his own show just because amongst the cast of Family Guy because he was more popular then Cleveland.

So saying "Quagmire deserves his own show" is biased. Eventually people will move on from saying that.
 
Quagmire getting a show was always a crazy idea. Unlike Cleveland he's a one-note running joke, he could never support a series.
 
I thought this was a very strong pilot episode. Much better than Family Guy's and American Dad's opening.

Yeah, the best stuff was at the beginning, but once the (catchy) theme song played, the show didn't really lose much steam. A lot of the dialogue was a bit clunky and expostional, but you'll be hard-pressed to find a pilot that doesn't have that problem. And remember, they have to set up these characters and the world that Cleveland's going to be living in. We're not going to learn everything about these characters in 22 minutes.
 
-sighs-

Seth, character's in cartoons DON'T have to learn from their mistakes and incorporate life lessons in the show like in Family Guy and American Dad.
 
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