The Boondocks and Aaron McGruder = Best Social Commentary

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idk I'd say that's a poor example. Asians have had a continual flow of immigrants....if not an increasing flow. Their relatively recent gains I'd say are more the result of the recent influx of educated Asians from other areas around the globe.

I would agree with you though that the continuance of the old policy has created a cyclic problem with no end.

I was only asking because I think at the time of the end of slavery through the 50's/60's. There really was not a "good" solution IMO.
 
I think one was rather more egregious than the other at trying to keep the African American population in bondage. Their local governments were certainly worse in many areas.

On the federal side....I would say that over a long term the plan will eventually lead to it's current state...where the federal side at least is now acting against their interest as a race within society.

I think what I'm trying to get at...is how do you remedy slavery at the end of the civil war (now I know you'd say the civil war shouldn't have taken place...but assuming it did)?
I'm curious how reconstruction would have gone under Lew and if you think those policies would have allowed or prohibited the mixing into society of former slaves.
 
Asside: The civil war shouldn't have happened. Slavery shouldn't have existed at that point and the North shouldn't have tried to force the south to remain part of the US. Both sides deserved a punch in the face. Instead they just killed each other.

America may be the "greatest nation" but we sure do like to rack up the shit stains on out historical underwear quickly.
 
PLAYBOY: Do you feel it's fair to request a multibillion-dollar program of preferential treatment for the Negro, or for any other minority group?

MARTIN LUTHER KING: I do indeed. Can any fair-minded citizen deny that the Negro has been deprived? Few people reflect that for two centuries the Negro was enslaved, and robbed of any wages -- potential accrued wealth which would have been the legacy of his descendants. All of America's wealth today could not adequately compensate its Negroes for his centuries of exploitation and humiliation. It is an economic fact that a program such as I propose would certainly cost far less than any computation of two centuries of unpaid wages plus accumulated interest. In any case, I do not intend that this program of economic aid should apply only to the Negro; it should benefit the disadvantaged of all races.
 
the statements he made weren't just for blacks alone in fact you could say that the achievements of the civil rights movements didn't just benefit blacks alone.
 
They shouldn't have looked for assistance or a level economic playing field, they should have created it for themselves. And they should've done it as individuals.
 
Chinese immigrants came here to build the railroads. They had a pretty tough time through about WWII and things have been getting better since then. Blacks have been here since about Day 1, but it was pretty tough for blacks to "assimilate into culture" with all the Whites Only BS. Black people didn't begin to get a fair shake until the 1970s.

If, by chance, you're misusing assimilate and you mean something along the lines of "why didn't black people build a strong community like the numerous Chinatowns in the US" then read about Greenwood, Oklahoma and what was done to a once thriving community http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood,_Tulsa,_Oklahoma . Just because the USA accepts immigrants from other races after a couple generations doesn't mean that blacks can just assimilate.
 
So you plan to set people free from enslavement and they should just create (with an aura of racism so prevalent) wealth from scratch? While those around them that had enslaved them are allowed to use the wealth they acquired on the backs of their former slaves to continue their economic dominance?

This seems like a silly idea. I don't imagine any person would consider that just. "Well at least we set you free ...now go do something with yourself...oh yeah and good luck being poor while I send my kids to Harvard with the money I made with you as my slave".

When we falsely imprison someone...they can sue the state for compensation. Because we recognize that it's wrong to hold someone against their will. We recognize their lost wealth at the fault of the state.

I don't see why slaves shouldn't have sought wealth from a nation which allowed them to be held as slaves legally.
 
Because there is no such thing as a 'nation' or 'the people.' If individual slaves went after their masters for paid grievances, I would have no problem with this.
 
Right...which would get us back to a civil war...which I know we're both philosophically opposed on.

I guess you would say that in Southern States (prior to the war) you'd also support a revolt by slaves to overthrow their masters?
 
Mercantilism?

Wealth is created through productive effort. One needs no hand-out for that.

And yes, the slaves absolutely should have revolted.
 
Absolutely. This is why such proto anarcho-capitalists as Lysander Spooner supported John Brown.
 
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