The BNP used a leaflet showing at least 25 Labour party Paedophiles?

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Was this wrong to bring this to the attention of the voting Public?
http://bnp.org.uk/news/british-national-party-activist-arrested-distributing-labour-25-leaflet
They never even mentioned anyone by skin colour or religion!
You see Tom you are obsessed by the BNP accepting that they can do good things for society as a whole is for you impossible.I have just proved they do not attack just Muslim Paedophiles but have attacked all paedophiles which your previous rant tried to make out they were not capable of.
Beastie as a supporter of the SNP I thought you might be doing the sensible thing and keeping your head down after all the strife in Libya you have caused.
Beastie these are court convicted Paedophiles the list is actually longer now.
Be under no doubt you will not getting away so easily either.
 
This has nothing to do with policies, it's just a publicity stunt by the BNP. You try and tell me that there aren't 25+ Paedophiles within the BNP, a party which is built around thugs, hooligans, racism, bigotry & lies....
 
So people trying to bring to the Attention of a Political class (That rules and governs us) of Paedophilia scumbags are Racist Thugs and it should be taken with a pinch of salt?. According to some of the less enlightened responses to the question.

I honestly do believe that Liberals and people who deny 'facts' about some people in the Labour Party are suffering acute denial symptoms.

The Labour Party members mentioned were 'elected representatives' for goodness sake, Harriet Harmin before she was an MP was an advocate of the Paedophile exchange network in London (was a Minister in New Labour). Furthermore the Communist supporters within the Labour Party got away scot free, an Ideology that killed 100 Million people. Lets not forget the more colourful people of Labour Tom Driberg, serial sex addict, Homosexual, Communist and party to the Criminal Underground. The labour Party has as much immoral baggage on it as the BNP will ever have. Therefore it is the duty of every citizen and the BNP to point this out.
Everyone can sling mud at the BNP but its wrong if the BNP does it? Laugh out Loud.

The Labour Party has never denied the allegations that the leaflet states.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Driberg
 
If the allegations are true, then no it is not wrong to bring this to the attention of the voting public.

Just like it is not wrong to bring to the attention of the voting public just how vile the BNP are.

For those who are interested in the BNP, take the time to click on the links below. If they are wrong, let me know.
 
What was he arrested for, do you know? I'm interested but it didn't say in the BNP bulletin your link took me to, I guess they haven't got anyone who knows anything about journalistic method but there you are.

If anyone in the BNP wants to make a leaflet about Tory members who've been convicted of pedo offences then according to google there's a good few of them, it might dry your funding up a touch though. I expect the LibDems have had some too but I haven't looked.

If anyone wants to make a leaflet about pedos in any of the smaller parties then Andrew Wells and Ian Hindle could be a good place to start. But why would anyone bother? Such tactics do rather scream desperation and the party that had those two names on its membership list is going nowhere fast.
 
It's not wrong, why?

But how many of these paedophiles are Labour Party members? Even the one who isn't a paedophile isn't a Labour Party member.

How many Labour Party members have there been since the first one of these joined the party? What percentage is 25 of that? Is that a higher or lower percentage than the number of paedophiles that have been members of the BNP in that time?

Would you expect the Labour Party to know a person is a paedophile before they have been convicted? Or would you expect them to kick them out after a conviction?

BNP paedophiles anyone?

Darren Francis
Nigel Hesmondhalgh
Roderick Rowley
Richard Price

And that is just from a quick search of BNP paedophiles on yahoo.

Edit: Sheepy, did I miss the bit where the BNP attacked white paedophiles?
The BNP let in a non-white into their party to "prove" they are not racist. They certainly do not need people who are paedophiles letting their image get even worse. I have never seen the BNP though go after white peadophiles, organise protests against white paedophiles. Why is that?
 
I can see the point they're trying to make, but it's a very childish one. Hitler was a vegetarian, doesn't mean all vegetarians are Nazis.
 
I can only assume you as a BNP supporter might not have noticed, due to your acute lack of input in the area, but Labour aren't the party of government any more. I appreciate you might not have noticed this due to your utter lack of MPs.

I personally don't doubt the BNP are capable of good ideas. What I greatly doubt is their capability to do any of them without an ulterior motive. Paedophiles? What does the BNP announce? 'We're campaigning against Muslim paedophiles....' Not just paedophiles, oh no, Muslim ones. No mention of any other religious or ethnic group.

Can't help but note you are obsessively posting questions about the BNP yet accusing someone else of obsession... is that a case of knowing when someone else is obsessed because you know all about it yourself?

I also note what you've done is prove nothing. Your source is the BNP website. That is not proof, that is about as much use as any other single biased source. Post an impartial one, then I might consider taking your word for it. You can't honestly be saying that no other possible news source has picked up that a BNP member was arrested for distributing leaflets. That's the most deeply unlikely thing going, considering the papers do like to heap ridicule in that direction and would just love to print it.

Edit - SNP member, mate, get it right yeah? And if you think the current situation in Libya owes anything to letting a very likely innocent man out of prison you are clearly not paying attention. The odds of me 'keeping my head down' because of that are quite large... I personally wouldn't bet on it.

I note you still haven't supplied an impartial source for your claims, either. Could that possibly be because you haven't got one? You won't get me changing the subject that easily, Sheeps.
 
Anything the BNP say should be taken with a pinch of salt. That said, 25 paedophiles out of a a labour membership of approx 280000 (2010 figures) is extremely low. Considering the low intelligence and bad hygiene of these politically naive racist thugs, I would hazard a guess and say they the BNP have more than their fair share of kiddie fiddlers.
 
If the intention was to suggest that because you can find 25 people of the estimated more than half a million people who have been Labour Party members in the last 20 years, then the Labour Party is somehow institutionally pro-child sex abuse - then yes, the BNP was wrong.

The offences of these individuals are vile and inexcusable, but they were sex offenders AND Labour Party members - not sex offenders because they were Labour Party members.

You don't like it when it is suggested that the whole BNP is an terrorist group (David Copeland - Soho Nail Bomber and BNP activist; David Cottage - jailed for possessing bomb making equipment, BNP candidate; Tony Lecomber - convicted of 3 offences under explosives act and BNP officer; Terry Collins - jailed for bomb making, BNP activist, Mark Bulman - jailed for petrol bombing a mosque in Swindon, BNP activist: Allan Boyce - provided Bulman with bomb making instructions, BNP activist: Terry Gavan - jailed for 11 years for possession of over 50 bombs, BNP activist).

Actually, BNP's paedophiles include
* Nigel Hesmondhalgh - Jailed for 9 months for possession of child pornography
* Darren Francis - Jailed for four years and three months on two counts of sexual activity with a child and for assault
* Ian Hindle - Jailed for three years for having sex with a child
* Andrew Wells - Jailed for two years and three months after admitting engaging in sexual activity with a child and engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a child.
* Roderick Rowley - imprisoned for 15 months after admitting 14 charges of making, distributing or possessing obscene images of children.

True, I can only reference these five in a quick trawl, but since the Labour Party's membership has been as high as 400,000 in the last 20 years, while the BNP's has never reached 15,000 - the BNP clearly wins in the "who has the larger proportion of paedophiles in its ranks?" competition.

The truth is that neither party endorses sexual activity with children, and whether it''s 25 in Labour, or 5 in BNP, it's a tiny proportion, who do not represent either party, or the parties' views.

Anyone who suggests that either BNP, with proportionately more child sex-abusers or Labour are somehow endorsing these vile crimes, is distorting and misrepresenting the facts.

EDIT: And I think Redmonk has missed the point and is incapable of understanding the mathematics which clearly shows that, as a proportion of membership, BNP is the party 'infested with child abusers'.

Now, if you've got an accusation to make about someone, Redmonk, make it and stop talking in riddles.

What is the truth? In all parties, BNP, Labour, Tory, whatever there are people who have committed horrible crimes. In all these parties this is a tiny, tiny proportion. None of the parties, no, not even the racist BNP, condone any sort of child sex abuse.

And, Redmonk, you are a moron for failing to understand that point, and maintaining, against all evidence that it is so. Concentrate on the political issues and stop the half baked child-sex smears.
 
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