TBDev vs Gazelle

For a specialized site Gazelle is godsent, but for a general site i can see it being a nightmare. How do you group apps? Do you have group for a program then have a version as an "album" then different releases under there. Or each version of the program has a page? How about coding the implementation for each category of torrents, are they compatible? I guess you could disable that sort of grouping but I mean, if you're not going to take advantage of gazelle organizational features, why use it at all.
 
Well, there must be a reason why most sites are moving from TBDev to Gazelle and not vice versa.

I took a look at the "official" TBDev source once and it's messy as hell. I havent looked at Gazelle though so in theory it could be even worse.
 
If you are a skillful coder, you probably would take 1 look at TBdev and think, I am not working on that lol (and i mean the older TBdev no idea what the new 2009 version is like).

My old coder from a few years back, would not touch it (only to fix problems, but not to actually write new stuff for it) because he thought it was that bad, and he decided to write his own from scratch, but things happened and it never got finished and he left.

My newer coder, who has left as well (i dont have much luck lol) hated it as well and re-wrote most of it.

Code is only as good as the person/people who wrote/write it, if its crap its crap, doesnt matter how skillful the coder is thats working on it once its released to the public.

Now thats not to say that TBdev is a bag of shit, it does what it says on the tin, but it does need optomizing a lot to get the best out of it (the old one like i said, not looked at 2009 yet).
 
Gazelle is great for non-0day music sites, especially What.CD. TBDev is awesome for everything else.

Of course there are some nice implementations of Gazelle code like DB9, TorrentVault, but TBDev would suite those places really well too. Gazelle-mania just pisses me off.
 
From a user perspective, I like gazelle _sites_ better. Before gazelle, you couldn't open a torrent, click on link of it's director or star actors, and then have all the movies they've been affiliated with. You couldn't couldn't search using tags grind + metal + 2003 (for music), or say action + comedy + 2009 to see all action comedies of 2009 (for movies) just to filter down to exactly what you want. Very useful on big trackers...

That said, I guess those functionalities were never impossible for TBDev, but they were never standard until Gazelle came along.
 
TBDEV 2009 is actually pretty good, but customizing it is a bitch.

I have having to use "$HTMLOUT" for every line of HTML... :frusty:

It gets so annoying. They should use a template system like Smarty.
 
TBDEV and Gazelle are both nightmares when it comes to the plain old source code, but I'd have to go with TBDEV for this one.

Why TBDEV?

Well, it's old, but the members of TBDEV.NET are dedicated to making mods and helping each other out. Sure, there are some things Gazelle can do, but do you see IMDb mods on their community forum? I doubt it.

If you don't have the time to mess around with TBDEV or Gazelle, you shouldn't even be running a tracker at all. Patching all the bugs in older TBDEV sources is easy. Finding the time do to it all is hard.
 
Slickerey said:
TBDEV 2009 is actually pretty good, but customizing it is a bitch.

I have having to use "$HTMLOUT" for every line of HTML... :frusty:

It gets so annoying. They should use a template system like Smarty.
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Problem is doing a good application design is just unknown for torrent systems. They read a beginning PHP book and think they know their shit.
 
backie said:
Problem is doing a good application design is just unknown for torrent systems. They read a beginning PHP book and think they know their shit.
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What I don't understand is why they released the code with a ton of bugs in it. Sure, a good amount of them are fixed in TBDEV 2006, but the original coder of the source could have taken caution.

Little things like these can help save you from embarrassment in the future.
 
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