Taking some wine to friends house.

On 22/03/2011 2:00 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:


I reject the idea that articulate people have to eliminate certain words
from their vocabulary because a very small percentage of people are so
ignorant that they would take offense at them because they think that it
sounds like another word.

The the best known incident involved an aid to the mayor. Similar
incidents have occurred at high schools and universities. These are all
situations where people should be expected to have enough of a
vocabulary to be familiar with the word and to distinguish.

I would suggest that an articulate and educated person should be
entitled to complain about the inappropriate use of a word, but a
ignorant person with limited vocabulary is not entitled to complain
about the use of perfectly valid word because they think it sounds like
another word. Rather than chastising smart people over their appropriate
use of language, they should simply let the complainant know that they
are mistaken and that their personal ignorance does not justify a
complaint.
 
Ophelia wrote:




Nothing actually wrong with making wine from canned (vinifera) grape
juice in a plastic container. Cheap wineries do the same thing.


Steve
 
On 22/03/2011 4:04 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
Dave Smith" wrote in message


You're right. Nothing wrong with it at all. Lots of people do it. There
are all sorts of U Brew businesses selling canned grape juice. Most of
the people buying it and using it do it in order to have inexpensive
wine to drink. I don't think they are under any delusions about it
becoming a fine wine.
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 14:53:08 -0400, Dave Smith
wrote:


That's actually pretty cool. Taking inexpensive canned grape juice and
making wine that when aged a few years gives it a decent quality.

I can't drink fermented grapes, but I salute him for doing something
so cool.

I discovered the hard way, (of course), that I'm very, very allergic
to fermented grapes. No other type of fermented beverage bothers me
except those made from grapes. A Doctor explained it to me while I was
recovering from my first experience with it, but other than it's a
chemical produced by the grapes during fermentation, that almost
killed me, I don't really remember what the specifics were.
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:57:03 -0400, Dave Smith
wrote:


I live near St. Augustine, Florida. On St. George street, there is a
wine shop that has nothing but wines made from anything but grapes.

The selection is fantastic. I drop by and have a taste of a few and
buy a bottle every now and then.

My favorite so far is the Honey Wine. Oh man! It is absolutely
delicious!

Here's the shop so you can look at the various kinds they sell there.

http://www.vinodelgrotto.com/eshop/10browse.asp

I don't think I've ever had Elderberry Wine. I like the semi sweet
wines the most. Too dry and I find them unappealing and too sweet they
seem like Kool-Aid.

I'll look at their Elderberry Wine soon.

Thanks!
 
Depends on what you call "bad" or "over the hill" Some wines can improve
after a period of not tasting great, but once a wine goes truly bad, as in
oxidized, it is not coming back.
 
"Dave Smith" wrote

Exactly. At any given time, I have maybe 200 bottles of the stuff around.
Properly made and aged, it is equal to the many $8 to $12 bottles you'll
find at the liquor store. I can have a bottle of "fine wine" every month, I
can have a bottle of very good wine maybe once a week, but I can have a
bottle of good wine every night if desired. There are some tricks to coach
a better than average wine from the concentrate and there are many
variations of quality in the kits to begin with.
 
Ed Pawlowski wrote:


Sure, but unless something is wrong with it (defective cork, etc.) a wine
can go 50 or a hundred years before that happens.

More common in my experience is a wine that loses all its once-attactive
fruit and the remaining leftover flavors are, for whatever reason, bad.
Some will say this happens if the wine did not have proper "structure"
but I am not sure what that means exactly.



Steve
 
Re: [email protected]

Dave Smith wrote:


I agree on a general basis, but in politics, I think it's a different story.
I also don't think the percentage of vocabulary-challenged people is all
that small these days, regardless of race/creed/religion/economic
circumstance. I've seen plenty of teenage children of well heeled families
who can barely formulate a written sentence other than a tweet.


Yeah, but then you have the problem of who decides who gets to complain. ;-)


And then you risk the complainant and all the complainant's friends taking
yet another exception because they feel like they have called stupid. Never
mind if they really are stupid, that's unfortunately beside the point.

There is still such a thing as prudence, especially for public figures.
Anyone in that position is generally going to be heard by a large cross
section of the constituency. They may be smart enough to know the meaning of
the word niggardly but if so they are probably smart enough to know it's
going to trip some triggers, right or wrong, and should consider whether
they even want to fight a pointless battle with no productive outcome which
hinges on the potential lack of literacy of the listener, or choose a
different word and fight their battles over something more productive.
There's no sense provoking a fight and spending political capital over
something like that. That's what I was suggesting.

Besides, politicians and public figures who tend to speak to a high average
level of intelligence rather than the median level tend not to last long
because they are viewed as distant and arrogant by many people. I'm not
saying it's right, but to be successful in public life it seems to be
important to make allowances for this.

I don't have to tell you that looking at texting, Usenet posting, Twitter,
and Facebook presents a downright scary picture of the level of literacy in
this country. The real answer to this problem is for governments at all
levels to stop shorting our schools, and train and treat our educators like
the important professionals they are supposed to be.
 
Nunya Bidnits wrote:




I disagree, if you're saying that only rare exceptional wines
can be stored 50 to 100 years without becoming oxidized.

You maybe be saying something different than this.


S.
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 23:36:56 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
wrote:



I wonder how many of them have multiple trolling news posting accounts
and are professional snitches like you, bitch?
 
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