T3 Digitizer Problem & PalmOne Customer Service Horror Story!

MikeJames

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For the past several months, my T3 was experiencing digitizer problems only when I opened/stretched the display. Whenver I touched the stylus to the screen, it was off by 1/8" to 1/4". And, when I tried to recalibrate, I would be unable to select the center of the "target." I often had to do a soft reset which would resolve the matter when the screen was not stretched; however, once stretched, the problem occurred again. Even after a hard reset.

Anyway, after reading several posts in this forum concerning the same apparent problem, it seemed that the only resolution was getting my T3 repaired or replaced. I really didn't want to do this, but the digitizer problem was annoying and I didn't want it to get worse.

Well, I called PalmOne customer service, and, after 30-minutes on hold, the call was disconnected. I tried again; same thing. This happened something like 4-times, and, just when I was going to give up, I finally got a service rep on the phone. I could tell by the bad connection that the service rep was overseas, likely India, and it was difficult trying to get the rep to understand my problem. After trying several suggestions made by the rep to correct the problem (this was 25 to 30-minutes on the phone), the rep began to make a service repair order when the line disconnected.

To say I was annoyed was an understatement, but I called again, was placed on hold for 20 additional minutes, and a another rep came on the line. It took another good 15-minutes or so to explain the problem, as well as letting the rep know that I just called and was disconnected, but she still insisted that I try different things with the T3 to correct the problem. Finally, she agreed to set up a service repair order (I didn't get disconnected this time) and said I would receive an email with the necessary directions to get my T3 repaired.

Later, I got an email providing me with the Service Request Order (SRO) number and instructions to mail in my T3 to a repair center in Laredo, TX. The instructions included a website URL where I could check the status of my T3's repair, and the revelation that I would have to provide the packing materials as well as pay for shipping and insurance. Anyway, I mailed my T3 off (I paid extra to track it online), and was gratified when it arrived at the repair center in 1-day.

Well, after the T3 was at the repair center for nearly 2-days, I checked the website URL; it didn't work. I then accessed PalmOne's website and was able to find my order via the Service section. It indicated that my T3 was replaced and was on its way back. It provided a DHL tracking number as well.

When I received my T3 (and I was aware that, likely, my T3 was replaced by a reconditioned unit), I found that the replacement's case was scratched, dented, and stained; one screw was missing from the back. It seemed to work, even with the screen stretched open; however, the color seemed washed out. I then noticed that the T3 I received was an early generation unit, and the screen was not as bright (later models, like the T3 I sent in for repair, have four orange lights that can be seen at the inner edge of the slide when the screen is stretched; this reconditioned model did not have them).

I was upset, but I calmed down enough to call PalmOne customer service to complain. After two attempts to get through (placed on hold for over 20-minutes each time, and then the call was disconnected), I reached a rep who, to his credit, immediately agreed to replace the T3 in my possession. This time, however, they would send the replacement to me, and, upon receipt, I'm to send the one currently in my possession back to them. And, lo and behold, they'll be providing the packing material and they'll pay for shipment.

This has been a nightmare. I should be getting the replacement by Tuesday of next week. I don't know what I'll do if I get another substandard unit, but I'm certainly going to be writing PalmOne a nastygram once this is resolved (it'll likely fall on deaf ears, but it'll make me feel better).

Sorry for this lengthy dissertation, but I had to vent! Has anyone else experienced such bad service from PalmOne? :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
That's why I decided to upgrade my messed up T|3 with the TapWave Zodiac2. I could've had the digitizer screen replaced but, like you, I didn't want to go through the hell that P1's customer service puts one through.

It made the decision to leave the P1 family even easier when they released the lackluster (to me) T|5.

I'm glad that your issue was solved eventually, and I wish you much success with your latest T|3 unit.
POL9A
 
I fyou check my postys in teh search engine you'll find that eh staff were very good with me and no disonnecvts. Never the less it took SEVERAL months to get my T3 bacjk and many phone calls at that time. If the dogotizer goes again I just may shoot myself
Barry
 
I haven't had any phone technical support encounters...yet...but I did go through the same type of headache with PalmOne email support. You wouldn't believe how many times I was told to soft reset and then hard reset to solve my T|2's buzzing screen problem. Everytime I would respond to their emails, stating that not only will a soft/hard reset NOT solve the problem, but I already perform multiple soft resets per day, and I had just recently performed two hard resets in the past two weeks. I had also listed all the apps that I am running/have installed, which clearly indicates that I'm more of a power user than someone simply using my Palm to keep up with some addresses and appointments. They didn't care -- every single response would VERY slightly address my additional concerns, and then it would immediately return to, "We advise performing a soft reset....hard reset....blah blah blah."

They made the mistake of sending me a feedback survey on their service -- I can assure you that I blistered them. I think that all of their technical support team must use PocketPCs, because they sure do not know much about Palms.

I would've been furious to receive a refurbished Palm. That's completely unacceptable when your Palm is still under warranty. I can see if they have that policy when you're not under the warranty, but not if it's still covered.

I better never end up having to return my Palm for service...it will be very ugly.
 
Just wondering- are we talking about US support here, or are you in another country? I had an excellent experience with the Tech Help in UK just a couple of weeks back. I posted about it since then. My digitiser was off, it got sent off, returned after 7 working days working perfectly...AND it was my own Palm. Very helpful of the phone too.
I'm sorry to hear your experience was so bad
 
Yes, USA support, or, rather USA support by people apparently located in India. Don't get me wrong, the support people were very nice despite my admittedly less than content demeanor when I spoke with them (keep in mind the many times I was disconnected - *that* was frustrating!); however, it was difficult getting them to understand my T3's problem. And, of course, getting the dented, etc., replacement just about caused my head to explode. In any event, I'm still waiting for the replacement for the replacement. Supposedly it'll be here this evening or tomorrow. The suspense builds!
 
I also had the digitizer problem. Called Palm Support (US), told them what my problem was and what I had done to try to correct it. Rep started repair order without delay. I asked for the Advanced Exchange and after being advised of the cost completed the order.

The unit was ready for pick up by DHL within 12 hours but for some reason they delayed picking it up for two days. Not sure why that was but I had the replacement in 5 days(DHL doesn't deliver that type of package on weekends). Unit has worked without a problem since then.

While support wasn't as good as when I had a problem with my Vx, it got the job done.
 
Interesting... I wasn't given an option for an Advanced Exchange when I first called; I was only given a repair option as well as being told that the T3 would be replaced if they could not repair it. I only received the Advanced Exchange option when I complained about the less-than-acceptable refurbished T3 I received.

Of interest: Following PalmOne's instructions, my original T3 was sent to Laredo, TX, for repair (and I received the refurbished T3 from the same place). The T3 replacement that's on it's way to me now (via the Advanced Exchange) is coming from Wilington, OH. I'm assuming that this replacement will likely be a new unit (I hope!).

Anyway, I'm glad you fared better than I did. Hopefully, all of the above will be a lesson learned for everyone else. If your Palm PDA starts to malfunction and it's still under warranty, ask for an Advanced Exchange in lieu of repair!
 
I sent in a badly malfunctioning T2 for the second time (digitizer was worst issue) via Advance Exchange- got back a dented (top, near SD card), scratched (two spots on side) unit. However, kept the refurb unit: screen was bright, and functioned mechanically & electronically like new, and I didn't want to go through the hassles described by others, above, again. Morale: you have to keep after them...not the way it should be, but just the way it is with PalmOne.
 
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Well, I was supposed to get my replacement T3 today for the piece of crap refurbished T3 that P1 originally sent me... Guess what? No T3. (I really shouldn't be surprised, but DAMNED!)

According to the Service Order Request, I was supposed to get it no later than today. Since I didn't get it, I checked the DHL shipping tracking number and found that there was no updated status since it was initially created late last week. I called DHL where I was told, "there's no status because it was never picked up. The shipper didn't provide it to us."

I called P1 where they "escalated" the matter with the end result being, "Call us in 3-days if you don't get it." I very nearly lost it (I realize it's not the service rep's fault) and asked if P1 would do anything for me to compensate for the lost time and inconvenience. The answer, essentially, was, "call us in 3-days if you don't get it." In other words, no.

So I get to wait and fume some more. Egads I'm pissed.

:mad: :mad: :mad:
 
I'm deeply in Hell. Still no T3 replacement. I called P1 in the early AM today and discovered that P1 considered the matter closed. They claimed they delivered the replacement. To say I was shocked would be an understatement. After convincing them that I never received the replacement unit for the damaged one they originally sent me, and providing all the necessary service and tracking numbers, I was told someone would call me today to resolve the matter. I never received a call.

I called P1 back in middle afternoon for a status, and, after being disconnected several times, I reached someone who said my matter was now marked as "critical" and someone would call me within the hour.

Well, 2-1/2 hours later, no call. So, I called them, reached a rep who I could barely understand, and I was finally forwarded to a supervisor who, at first, insisted my matter was resolved, but then checked my info and admitted I was right (wow!).

Now I have a new Service Number, and, apparently, another Advanced Exchange has been set up. I've been assured I'll get it by mid-next week. I won't be holding my breath, and, I must admit, I'm about to give up.

My T3 will likely be the very last Palm product I'll ever buy. And, folks, if you ever have to send your Palm in for repair, no matter the model, you have my advanced sympathies.
 
For as much as a hassle you've had (and boy can I say I've had my own trouble with replacements....)

Keep in mind at least you GOT TO CONTACT SOMEONE.

Since moving from Canada to Switzerland in March and recently breaking my zire71 screen I've discovered that UNLESS you pre-pay in EURO for the ABILITY to call support directly with a minim $18 euro payment which lasts a year, the ONLY way to connect support is either email (hahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh) or fax (bigger hahhh).

If you try to call the support number without this paid amount you can't get into the support LINE as its coded with passwords etc.

Oh okay. So what if I called the canada support? Well tried that. That number isn't available from my area although other toll-free numbers work from here (paying long distance of course).

At least this NON-fast communication, one question answered at a time, SLOWLY has allowed me to consider my options:

-pay the $230 swiss franc cost to send in replace screen on my current zire71. (broken screens not covered under extended warranty which is where I am at right now having bought this zire71 may 2003). BUT if I fix the screen what if something else goes? Since I'm in switzerland and the extended warranty was purchased with A&B Sound in Canada. Apparently to fix anything covered under the extended warranty would mean sending my unit first to A&B Sound and have them send it to palm. Then palm send it to A&B and A&B send it to me. I don't have that much confidence in them being that organized-either palm or A&B Sound. My zire71 started experiencing a buzzing screen and digitizer drift but I still hung in there til I leaned on the screen. Duhh.

-UPGRADE/EXCHANGE buy the palm online store T2 or T3 (haven't decided which is better or cheaper-no reply yet from them) and with my sending my broken screen zire71 receive 25% discount on T2 or T3 purchase. BUT with this deal I'm unsure if I only get a handheld or the handheld with what normally comes with it. (i.e. swiss powered usb cradle would be a PLUS).
I've decided to get my hubby to send a fax on monday with the hopes I receive a reply SOON.

-forget replacing or exchanging and instead buy a $479 swiss franc Tungsten T3 (concerned about short battery charge life I've heard about).

Nothing is cheap/easy in switzerland.

And then having to deal with customer service.

Sigh.
 
But at least you get good hot chocolate, right? And very private bank accounts to hide your slush fund, right?

I keep wondering whether or not PalmOne and PalmSource WANT to survive/succeed. It seems that ever since Palm bought HandSpring (and had to split off into PalmOne and PalmSource) that things have gone downhill for both of them. PalmOne puts out crappy handhelds and terrible service for them and PalmSource is sitting on a new OS that no one wants to license.

I remember when I first bought a Palm device (Palm Vx), I got terrific service and support from the company because it was in their vested interest, but since the merger/split, I have nothing but bad feelings for either company's "efforts" and sometimes I get so frustrated that the only thing keeping me from jumping ship is the fact that I'm a Mac guy and buying a PPC makes no sense, in addition to all of the 3rd party software I'm heavily invested in via the Palm OS.

I hope, gort, that you have received your T|3 and that it has none of the issues that mine ever did. And, karenramel, I hope that a viable solution is reached in your case and that you don't try to drown your sorrows in chocolate because then you might gain 1.1 million pounds (or kilos or whatever they got over there.)

PalmOne/PalmSource, if you're listening, give your customers a break.
POL9A
 
"My T3 will likely be the very last Palm product I'll ever buy."

I'm glad some of you are catching on. I agree completely - that's why I'm getting the "spare." Paul isn't standing 'round with baited breath for OS6, either.

Can't understand the rabid excitement to try a new non-working OS, and if PalmOne can't even fix WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT, God help 'em. It'll be over. Might as well use the current "working tools" to get the most out of what a PDA should do, and I suppose hope like hell it doesn't break -- or have a spare.

There is too much software out there doing a fantastic job TODAY of making you more productive TODAY with an "older handheld," than spending your time getting new ones working or fixed.

I just found an add-on to Bonsai called "Back2Bonsai," with tag linking. Simple 9k add on app I hadn't "noticed before."

It's revolutionized the way I use contact management and linking to Agendus. Things like that make me really happy . . . and it would work on a Zire or a TE or an M515 or "current Treo" or T3.

This is why I've been posting more questions than answers lately . . . I want my T3 "tweaked as possible" to do as much as possible with existing capabilities and software. IIIcRuled could probably get a movie to play on an Etch-A-Sketch he's so clever . . . I'd rather put time in THAT than sit around wondering why my calendar is crashing and my key apps no longer work!

Repair is another matter -- I "live on the edge of the razor" with the whole Flash thing . . . but I'd rather risk an older model "breaking" and have a spare . . . and completely FORGET about "sending it in" as Gort did. Apparently you're just asking for anguish, judging from Gort's post along with several others.

Sad.
 
I'm sorry to hear about the troubles most of you are having with Palm's support. My experience has been very positive and totally different from the above posts. I offer the details to provide some hope and balance about Palm's support. ... I bought my T3 the day after it was officially available in early October 2003. In mid-June 2004, I noticed the dreaded digitizer problem happening on my unit. I tried numerous fixes that I read about on several boards. None worked. I emailed Palm support and received a reply the following day. A phone call to the number in the email resulted in a Service Repair Order. I mailed my unit on Monday, July 19th and got it back on Friday July 23rd. It was my original unit (I could tell by a distinguishing mark on the case), with the worn out bar code label replaced, and the digitizer problem fixed. It's been reliable ever since. (Knock on wood!) ... Again, I'm sorry to hear about the problems many of you have had. I hope Palm is able to make things right for you.
 
I'm at work, and I just checked DHL for the tracking number associated with my alleged replacement T3. Supposedly, it's been delivered today, in my city, but it doesn't say where! I called DHL; they also said it was delivered to my city and they don't have any other information at this time!

I swear, the suspense builds! Will it be there when I get home? If so, will it be another piece of (forgive the vulgarity) crap refurb unit or what? If not there, will my head explode?

By the way, thanks to all who read my rantings on this subject (again, I had to vent), and for your comments, understanding, and similar experiences both bad and good.

Now, I'll be heading home in 45-minutes; what will I find? Stay tuned for, hopefully, one last post...
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I'm a sad and, figuratively speaking, a vengeful man...

I received the replacement T3 for the damaged T3 that P1 originally sent me, and, well, the new replacement is also damaged. It has a large scratch at the back of the case, and, to top it off, they sent me another refurbished 1st or 2nd generation T3 (when the slide is open, there are no lights at the inner edge at the bottom of the graffiti area).

I'm astounded and flabbergasted! Obviously P1's quality control sucks, and, apparently, they don't care about customer service or care.

I give up. Sort of. I won't be calling P1 because of the hell of the past, but I did fire off a nasty gram (certified snail-mail, return receipt) to P1's headquarters in Milpitas, CA, expressing my dismay, disappoitment, and dissatisfaction at the entire process and my treatment. Although I asked for a response, I doubt I'll hear from a P1 representative.

The T3 I received works fine and I'll grudgingly use it despite being annoyed at the scratch on the back (and the fact they sent me an older unit). This T3 will definitely be the LAST P1 product I'll every buy.
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No word from P1 concering my nasty gram, but I expected as much... But one last thing:

When I received the replacement T3, I sent the other (damaged) replacement back. This was last week, and, according to DHL tracking, P1 received it last Friday. Yesterday, I received an email from P1 indicating they have not received the T3; they gave me 7-days to send it back or they'd charge me for it.

A (very frustrated) call to P1 resolved the matter, and, today, the matter appears to be resolved. I think.

Jeez.
 
I have had the same problems with my T2 and am as angry and frustrated as you are. I received my Palm T2 as an Xmas gift last year. Within the first 4 months it began having problems responding accurately to the stylus. I began recalibrating the digitizer on a regular basis. Then the digitizer recalibration began "looping" where you have to keep tapping on the target over and over again. I began becoming a regular on the free P1 email tech suppport. They always responded very quickly and cordially. They seemed to understand the problem. Their solutions were always one of the same 3 things: 1. recalibrate the digitizer 2. perform a soft reset 3. perform a hard reset.

Each of these 3 solutions will work for in increasingly short time period. As my warranty is up on Dec. 9, 2004 I phoned tech. support to order a repair of the unit on Nov. 6th. I had a long wait time and then finally got some guy in India. He spoke pretty good English and understood the problem completely. He had me do a hard reset then asked if my T2 was working. I said yes, it was working but it would only be a matter of time before it was useless again. He kept saying that he had solved my problem and wanted my credit card number to charge me $25.00 since he had "fixed" my problem. Well to make a long story short, my T2 is once again useless and completely unresponsive to the stylus.

After doing some research and finding this web site I now realize that this is a pervasive problem with the T2 and customers who send in their units are not happy with the outcome of that either. So not wanting to get a beat-up refurbished unit I called Tech Support in India again last night to see if they would either refund my money or give me a model that doesn't have the problem (if that exists). They could not do that but gave me the phone number of P1 Customer Relations. That number is 847-493-7256 6am to 5pm Pacific time and you must have your case number handy from your Tech. support calls. I phoned there this morning and after a lengthy wait was connected to a real jerk who pretended not to know about the "digitizer drift" problem with Palms. He refused to refund my money or exchange my Palm for a model that might work. He said my only option was to phone tech. support and have my T2 repaired or replaced under the manufacturers warranty. At this point I wanted to pop his head off! I informed him that I had researched the problem, you could find it in any discussion board or forum, knew all about the drift problem and also knew about the terrible repair horror stories from customers. He could have cared less and still pretended to not be aware of any of these complaints. I told him that was not satisfactory and I will never again purchase a Palm product, again he did not care but at least I felt a smidge better venting.

I suppose I will just have to eat the $277.00 my spouse spent last December on the unit and go out and purchase something else. Anyone have a recommendation? I am a pharmacist and rely on my pda to run Epocrates Rx Pro in my practice.
 
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