Not completely true, i find their music quite original and progressive (im not saying they are prog, just progressive, theres a difference)...Their guitarist (i know his name, but its too damn hard to pronounce) churns out some very creative riRAB...Nothing about their music spells airplay or billboard 100 success, but they get those things anyway... Chop Suey, Toxity, Spiders, all those songs are in odd time, no verse-chorus-verse structure to speak of, with weird as hell vocals, obscure lyrics and very complex musical arangements and influences, and dispite all that, those songs still become huge hits, quite remarkable when you think about it.