Superman Returns #2: He hears our cry for help

I still do not understand why this movie bombed and something as shallow as "Pirates of the Carribbean" breaks all time box office records :rolleyes:

Actually, that is not true. I take that back. The reason I think this movie did not do that well is for a lot of factors that if you indulge me, I will go into them here:

1) I think Superman (the character) is not considered "dark" enough by today's standards compared to someone like Bruce Wayne of Batman. This is a direct reflection of the younger generation having been brainwashed into thinking nothing is "cool" or "deep" unless it is filled with angst, pain and suffering...

Which is a shame because this is not what Superman (the series or character) is about. Herein lies the big irony.

2) I also believe a lot of audiences were expecting a story along the lines of "Superman II" and "Spider Man II" where Superman is fighting super villains and the film is more or less an action movie filled with CGI battles with very little characterization underneath.

I am sure this kind of story is coming... Then again, maybe not because SR didn't do that well, unfortunately... But it was nice to see Bryan Singer "reboot" the series in a much more mature manner that dealt with the real issues that would arise from SR departing and then returning after a long absence. Especially, in a post-9/11 world.

3) I believe Superman... Or, at least Bryan Singer's version... Is no longer intended for the masses and this is the main reason it failed above all else.

What I mean by this is SR requires audiences to think a little and not have everything spoon-fed to them like so many other movies do. Superman, as a character and series, is also from a different era... Which goes back to point number one of him maybe not being considered "dark"enough (not an anti-hero) for younger generations tastes... But this is the whole point.

Superman is supposed to represent what is wholly good in human beings and the American spirit and be without flaws more or less -- The fact he does have flaws as Clark Kent, and trying to keep his loved ones safe with his secret identity also adds another layer to this character as well. Unfortunately, I just do not think audiences of today, younger audiences, realize this is who Superman is supposed to represent... Which is also ironic because Smallville actually has tried to keep this aspect of Clark intact even if they destroy other characters in the process.

I don't know.

These are just my thoughts and people can disagree with them if they want.

I just felt SR was one of the best movies not only this summer, but in a long time that made you feel good you went to the movies (instead of waiting for DVD) and was well worth the money spent compared to most other movies that are crap and cater to the lowest common denominator and are marketed at unsophisticated teens.
 
Right now the fic is just taking on a life of it's own so I'm not sure what it's really about. I do know that by "dumb luck" I guess you could call it, there is somewhat of a cross-over with "The 4400" (done unintentionally). I'll be sure to post it when it's complete.

In the meantime, found a list of the Deleted Scenes (I didn't read them of coarse so I'll be putting them in a spoiler box.)

[sp]00:01:05:12 ("SUPERMAN RETURNS" - DVD - DELETED SCENES - "THE DATE")
00:01:45:02 ("FAMILY PHOTOS")
00:01:33:15 ("CRASH LANDING/X-RAY VISION!)
00:02:43:01 ("OLD NEWSPAPERS")
00:02:33:05 ("ARE YOU TWO DATING?")
00:01:33:16 ("MARTINIS AND WIGS")
00:00:59:08 ("I'M ALWAYS RIGHT")
00:00:41:04 ("JIMMY THE LUSH")
00:00:11:20 ("LANGUAGE BARRIER")
00:00:23:12 ("CRYSTAL FEET")
00:00:26:03 ("NEW KRYPTON")
00:01:08:07 (EASTER EGG - (AKA: "HOW WRONG CAN YOU BE?"))[/sp]
 
Now the question is... how and when? :lmao:

I was actually thinking it'll be better if Lois did it with Clark then found out her son has Superman powers. Don't you just love the questions that will follow?
 
^i hope they show more of superman cuz he is REALLY HOTT in that suit!!!!know wonder lois has a crush on him!!!maybe he will reveal his identity in the next one ....kinda go for a spidey 2 thing here lol ....jk but it could happen!
 
Love Smallville and Superman Returns! So excited for the release of Superman Returns on DVD because I have been wanting to watch it since like the end of July when I saw it for the third time. :lol: Donner's cut of Superman 2 is intriguing as well, I'll probably check that out too.
 
So did anyone get their Superman Returns dvd?! I sure did! Oh man was I stoked! I got the one with the collector's case and booklet.

I watched the deleted scenes yesterday and they were cool. Although I was hoping that they would've had a scene where Kal-El was in that starship and his exposure to what was left of Krypton.

I plan on watching the movie this weekend. My dad said that he might even watch it with me.

I also picked up "Look Up in the Sky: The Amazing Story of Superman". I watched it yesterday and it was sweet!!! It was amazing, clearly, to see all that history of the Man of Steel thoughout the history of reality.
 
Hi

I love this movie. Saw it twice. I would like to have the DVD already to see it twenty more times :lol: I guess it's not going to be out too soon. Anyone knows anything about that?
 
Yeah, I guess it doesn't bother me with Batman when they use different actors...but I think that's because I really don't care for Batman all that much. I would looove to see Brandon back. I think he did do a great job, and as much as I love Kate Bosworth, I just couldn't get into her as Lois though.
 
^that is a possibility...there are so many unanswered questions that need to be answered lol i want answers!
 
Gay you have the right to say whatever you want, I'm not going to throw tomatoes at you :lol:

I prefer Clark too and I hope if they make a sequel that they will show more of Clark than him as Superman.
 
This movie is really cool, saw it yesterday. It has gotten quite mixed critics over here, but I thought it was really good - the only thing that really dragged down is how unlikely it is. How come NO ONE notices that Superman returns a day after Clark Kent? How can no one notice that they look very much alike? How can no one see him when he rips off his clothes and reveal the superman suit? How come no one asks where Clark is when Superman is in a coma? It's just too... Gah. Really weird. And I thought Lois knew that Clark was superman, that he told her once in "Lois and Clark". They were by the fireplace and she wanted to have sex with him and he said it could be dangerous because of his superpowers, or something like that.
 
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