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Event Horizon was a rip-off of Solaris and Aliens and this is rip-off of those films and 2001, so it's not very original.
Sunshine - what a pile of rubbish
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vballchick14
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Good atmospheric first hour but the ending edged too far into Event Horizon territory for me (I hated Event Horizon)
Olivia Grace 3/25/09!
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Saying it's a rip off of other Sci-Fi films is a little unfair as when in space you only have two plot lines: meet friendly or unfriendly aliens / go stir crazy. It's how the director approaches these makes for a good or bad film. Also, you can't really criticise a Sci-Fi film for an unrealistic plot... 
That said, along with others, I enjoyed the first 2/3's only for it to go very cliche in the final third 
That said, along with others, I enjoyed the first 2/3's only for it to go very cliche in the final third I've just watched the DVD last night and have to say excellent production values, great effects and some really good performances but towarRAB the last 45-50 minutes I hadn't a clue what the hell was going on. All I could think of the whole time was, that's lifted from Alien, oh that's Event Horizon, pinbacker?!? PINBACKER?!?!? What the hell! Is he going to talk to the bomb? And at that point wanted to see Dark Star instead which had a much better story line! Love the I am Kloot end song though, very Monkees do Leonard Cohen but in a good way.
Baltharzion Snookleplum
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Its a strange film, the first part is very good indeed apart from a handful of plot holes. It is intelligent, interesting and obviously a huge amount of thought has gone into it.
Unfortunately, the last part ruins it, it inexplicably turns into nothing more than a cheap gory slasher flick. It almost as if Boyle and Garland thought they had to jazz the film up a bit.
And no, it's not bad to have impure thoughts about Evans and Murphy!
Unfortunately, the last part ruins it, it inexplicably turns into nothing more than a cheap gory slasher flick. It almost as if Boyle and Garland thought they had to jazz the film up a bit.
And no, it's not bad to have impure thoughts about Evans and Murphy!
Zombie Bob
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yes - i saw it ages ago and I enjoyed sunshine enormously. Yes, of course, it had weaknesses, but then very few films don't, and i thought it's plus points were in the majority
For me, there seems to be recurring themes in Boyle's films, particularly obvious in sunshine and 28 days later. The themes are much more to do with human response to dilemmas, how people act when they're backed into a corner. The overall context of the films (spaceship / sun, zombies, drug addiction) are just catalysts to provoke these discussions, and not massively interesting in themselves.
For instance, in 28 days later, the moments that stick in my mind are:
1) The opening 'empty London' sequence: Like a childhood fantasy. What if the world was effectively frozen and you could go anywhere or do anything. What would you do?
2) the tower block scene: you're safe, but not forever. How do you judge when to run, and on what basis?
3) the Cillian character finding his dead parents: how on earth would you feel in that situation?
4) The soldiers intending to use the women for 'necessary troops pleasure' [a la the 'joy division' in the ww2 German army], and also procreation to 'start again': Is that immediate sacrifice of personal humanity worth the greater good, [as they saw it]?
And so on.....Notice that all these memorable moments are entirely independent of daft zombies running around and roaring. That was by far the least interesting part of the film.
In Sunshine we see exactly the same sorts of themes being played out, just in a different context.
1) Can you kill someone close to you for the good of mankind?
2) How do you kill them 'kindly'?
3) Can you fall in love when you know *for a fact* that it's doomed?
4) How do you say goodbye to your family / loved ones when you know you're going to die?
..and so on.... You can dig out exactly the same stuff in Trainspotting, but i'll save you the boredom.
Anyway - my point is that THESE are the most interesting points about the films, NOT whether the payload of the damn bomb is feasible, or when and how the sun is going to die. Who cares about that stuff? It's clear that none of these films are about those sorts of details at all, and to dwell on them is to miss the point entirely imo.
I'm not suggesting that the questions & themes raised in Sunshine and boyle's other films are enormously profound, or even necessarily profound at all, but in many ways they are the sort of playful scenarios and dilemmas that we gave ourselves as children, and that often crop up in our dreams, and on that basis I find them still deeply engaging regardless of what metaphysical claptrap people may or may not choose to wrap around them.
So in summary....i'd say go see it, enjoy the imagery (which is pretty spectacular i must admit), but don't dwell on the context, or even the characters.... dwell on the situations and on yourself. Much more rewarding in that light i feel.
It's for these reasons that i think sunshine will outlast the immediate criticisms that we're seeing right now, and live on with people as an affecting and sensitive film.
:my 2p:
For me, there seems to be recurring themes in Boyle's films, particularly obvious in sunshine and 28 days later. The themes are much more to do with human response to dilemmas, how people act when they're backed into a corner. The overall context of the films (spaceship / sun, zombies, drug addiction) are just catalysts to provoke these discussions, and not massively interesting in themselves.
For instance, in 28 days later, the moments that stick in my mind are:
1) The opening 'empty London' sequence: Like a childhood fantasy. What if the world was effectively frozen and you could go anywhere or do anything. What would you do?
2) the tower block scene: you're safe, but not forever. How do you judge when to run, and on what basis?
3) the Cillian character finding his dead parents: how on earth would you feel in that situation?
4) The soldiers intending to use the women for 'necessary troops pleasure' [a la the 'joy division' in the ww2 German army], and also procreation to 'start again': Is that immediate sacrifice of personal humanity worth the greater good, [as they saw it]?
And so on.....Notice that all these memorable moments are entirely independent of daft zombies running around and roaring. That was by far the least interesting part of the film.
In Sunshine we see exactly the same sorts of themes being played out, just in a different context.
1) Can you kill someone close to you for the good of mankind?
2) How do you kill them 'kindly'?
3) Can you fall in love when you know *for a fact* that it's doomed?
4) How do you say goodbye to your family / loved ones when you know you're going to die?
..and so on.... You can dig out exactly the same stuff in Trainspotting, but i'll save you the boredom.
Anyway - my point is that THESE are the most interesting points about the films, NOT whether the payload of the damn bomb is feasible, or when and how the sun is going to die. Who cares about that stuff? It's clear that none of these films are about those sorts of details at all, and to dwell on them is to miss the point entirely imo.
I'm not suggesting that the questions & themes raised in Sunshine and boyle's other films are enormously profound, or even necessarily profound at all, but in many ways they are the sort of playful scenarios and dilemmas that we gave ourselves as children, and that often crop up in our dreams, and on that basis I find them still deeply engaging regardless of what metaphysical claptrap people may or may not choose to wrap around them.
So in summary....i'd say go see it, enjoy the imagery (which is pretty spectacular i must admit), but don't dwell on the context, or even the characters.... dwell on the situations and on yourself. Much more rewarding in that light i feel.
It's for these reasons that i think sunshine will outlast the immediate criticisms that we're seeing right now, and live on with people as an affecting and sensitive film.
:my 2p:
Kingofquestions
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Questura, this film reminded me of the saying by Dov S S Simens on what to make your first movie about.
"Put twelve people in a house and chop 'em up"
And that, in a nutshell, is "Sunshine". Somewhere along the way Danny believed he was doing something better.
I thought it was interesting, then it got tiresome.
"Put twelve people in a house and chop 'em up"
And that, in a nutshell, is "Sunshine". Somewhere along the way Danny believed he was doing something better.
I thought it was interesting, then it got tiresome.
sexy asian
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The real "star" of the film is the Sun.
Navo Senthil
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It was OK, average. The only reason I watched it was because of Michelle Yeoh. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered.
gamerdude987
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I liked it