"Star Wars: The Clone Wars" Feature Talkback (Spoilers)

This has been getting panned here in the Emerald City as well--

Seattle Times: **
Seattle Post-Intelligencer: C-
Seattle Weekly: NR
The Stranger: Unfavorable
 
The movie itself doesn't look terrible, just not good enough to see in theaters. I'll catch the series though.

Does this really belong in the CN Forum. I mean, yea sure the series is airing on CN, but the movie itself has no connection to CN. It's not co-produced, distributed or anything by CN. It just so happens that the series that was born from this movie is airing on CN.
 
Went to see this this afternoon and I really liked it. The battle droids dialog was too funny LOL!! I really don't see the big deal about the Clone Wars series continuing, I just look at it as another season. But because it's "Star Wars" and "George Lucus" people want to gripe about it. If that were the case for all series then they would all be only 1 season couldn't possible be anymore stories to tell after that:rolleyes2: ... anyway ...



Me too, seeing as how they showed so many of the Clone Troopers get killed (and some rather violently). I'm kinda hoping she will too at some point.
 
Same race, I'm sure. I thought it was Shaak-Ti when I first saw the character design.

I'll give this a chance, though I'd prefer something outside the Clone Wars.:sweat:
 
Thing is, the Clone Wars were covered over multiple mediums - the CN shorts, the video game, multiple novelizations, comics, and maybe more that I'm not thinking of. Any one medium only got a chunk of the action, but as a whole the Clone Wars were pretty well covered. That and there's already inconsistencies between the different publications. A new series only further muddles the mess.

On top of that, any character worth mentioning survives the Clone Wars to die in Episode III. So while it's fun to see the individual battles play out, there's only so much you can invest before repetition sets in.

I probably will end up seeing this on the weekend, just because its Star Wars on the big screen. And from what I'm hearing its mostly the Asoka elements that rival Jar Jar in painfulness. If they'd dropped that character this would probably be a lot more entertaining.
 
I actually liked this movue, the only real thing that bugged me was the lack of rolling credits at the beginning, but I kinda like the way it's presented here. Also my dad says Dooku has a plastic beard:).

The second Asoka was introduced I could tell she'd be hated by the fans for daring to be nonhuman young and female in a group of sweaty men in their twenties(and really, she's about the same age and same level of training as any clone, just different training). In all honesty I like her character on the whole, it's not like she has an annoying accent or wins with no real skill.
 
FTR, FWIW, I liked the NJO. I actually want to see that one get animated or turned into animation, even with a lot of what happens in there (Traitor and Star By Star approach R-rated levels especially, and Vector Prime alone made many fans swear off Star Wars books forever). Dark Nest is terrible, though, and Legacy Of The Force is basically there to write the NJO out of continuity (basically everything from the NJO has been rendered "wrong" or impotent other than character deaths). Hopefully Millennium Falcon (yes, there's a in-the-future novel that supposedly will unveil the background behind the ship) will return SW novels to a decent quality.

As for the movie, I do not like the looks of it. IMO, I think Clone Wars has been played out and there isn't much else left to explore. The Chicago Tribune also tore the movie into itty bitty pieces (a one-star review and the reviewer basically spends the whole time mocking it) and that doesn't leave me encouraged about the movie or the TV series.
 
Hm, I saw it and I think it would have been a lot more impressive as a made-for-TV movie. The action scenes looked pretty good, but the basics were stiff - the mouths didn't move enough and the walking was jerky.

I thought any attempt at humor fell really flat. The acting and dialogue were horrendous, so basically standard Star Wars fare ;)
 
The problem I have with alot of the EU is it is has the common problem of adult Star Wars fans- because they've grown up, so must the series. I honestly feel that's part of the reason the prequels did badly, because the adult fanbase are looking at things with very rose tinted glasses and demanding stories that now match their supposedly adult sensibilities. Usually that just means darkness and violence. The EU stuff has basically also rendered everything good the cast did in the films null and void. They bring back the Republic and the Jedi...the Jedi are betrayed again and the Republic is again replaced by the Empire. Way to rub out THE central story of the whole franchise.
 
Why not just have a story set in the first trilogy? Say about a smaller cell in the rebel alliance fighting against the Empire? That seems like it would please everyone.
 
I saw it today and really did LOVE it. I also happen to like Asoka, she's a lot like Anakin. I don't really see why people don't like the movie, if you ask me it was better paced than most Star Wars movies and didn't take it's self too seriously. It featured some great battle scenes and character interaction.
 
Uhh, no, not at all. CN is owned by TURNER, which is owned by Time Warner, which also happens to own WB. That makes WB and Turner sister companies, but WB does not own CN in anyway. If it did than there'd be no issue airing Looney Tunes.
 
This *is* Extended Universe...

And the movie made no attempt to disguise that.

There's so much EU stuff out there...why bother picking on the *one* EU movie, but not the rest of it? Which brings me to...




I agree. Most of the gripes with the prequel trilogy had been mostly due to fan perception, and the EU didn't help things. To anyone who complained about characters like Jar-Jar binks, I couldn't help but ask... did you even WATCH the original trilogy? Seriously, I could find no difference in the general attitude, acting, and theme between the originals and the newer ones. Star Wars has *always* been cheesy with a side of lightsabers. But ya know, that's what makes it Star Wars.

Similar thing in the Zelda series. Games like Wind Waker and Twilight Princess got picked on for not being Ocarina of Time clones, but if you think about it, maybe the problem is that they *were*. Nobody hyped the fans, they hyped themselves. They told themselves it was this etherial otherworldly game delivered by God himself on top of a platinum Elvis record, and then when practically the same thing is delivered years later, it's like the record isn't shiny enough...

In the long run, it's not our place to say. Star Wars will always belong to Lucas, and not the imbalanced focus group that is the internet. Personally, I can't stand much of the EU, and I'll always prefer the "real" six, but if Lucas says people can mess with his property, that's his business and no one else's. That said, there's some good stories to be had in the midst of it all if you're willing to not take the whole thing too seriously.

For the record, I enjoyed the movie. It's better than most EU stuff out there. Granted, I might have been happier to see Kyle Katarn in his own movie....tee hee :D
 
I say set it several hundred years after the events of "Return of the Jedi". In a dirty and bleak Distopia, Jedi "dojos" exist on every street corner, with cut-rate "masters" willing to pass on the wisdom and knowledge of the Order...for a price. The actual Jedi Temple seems to be more interested in either contemplation or finances to actually do any good in the world, and cruel gangs of "knights" rule the streets. Into this world, in one of the worst slums of the industrial nightmare moon known as Endor, a young, street-wise, tough 'wok pad'wan discovers that he can bring back the golden age of the New Republic...but only by discovering the forbidden, lost (some say mythical) arts of...the Sith! :evil:
 
Well, the original trilogy is a bit cheesy, but it's meant to be a homage to the Saturday afternoon serials George Lucas grew up on. The comic-booky dialogue somehow worked well for the original trilogy. They're fun films.

However, the prequels seem to be much more like a Greek tragedy than a swashbuckling adventure. If anything, they're much darker, more violent, and more adult than the original trilogy (mass genocide, betrayal, conspiracy, kids being murdered, the good guys losing). However, the corny dialogue seems out of place and just plain not as fun as in the original trilogy ("This party's over", "I don't like sand"), and as a tragedy, it's not believable enough. Fans take the prequels more seriously, but it's a more serious story. And most fans love the more lighthearted action-packed Tartakovsky cartoons.

People complained about JarJar Binks. However, people also complained about the Ewoks in 1983, so I don't see a double standard there.

In the end, I don't think it matters so much if the films appeal more to the inner-child or to adult sensibilities, as long as it's a decent film. It's not that the prequels had to grow up with an audience expecting high art; it's just that they were poop.
 
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