Star Trek XI Blu-Ray

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Be aware folks, that if you only have a Dolby Digital 5.1 AV Amp/Receiver you will only get a 2.0 output from this movie unless you understand languages other than English!

You need a full Dolby Digital True-HD capable AV Amp/Receiver to get the best audio performance from this movie.

I am using TotalMedia Theatre on my PC with Optical SPDIF to my Azur 540R V2.

However, if anyone else has a different experience with this movie, and doesn't have a DDTHD capable device, then please let us know with details of how you set it up.

It might be better if I set up the 5.1 analogue connections, but that is difficult for me to set up because I need (a) inputs for mic and line-in and (b) I'm disabled and the kit is too heavy for me to move unaided.
 
My Bluray is playing fine in 5.1.

My Denon amp displays PL2 if outputting standard 2 channel surround and jumps to DOLBY DIGITAL on the readout only when its proper 5.1 sound.

On the commentary it reaRAB PL2 as it should and on all the other tracks it reaRAB DOLBY DIGITAL (I forget if the AD does too ) so as per usual the TruHD is downmixed to 5.1 just like all my other Blurays .

Checking out some of the alternate language tracks in the noisiest action scenes and the mix is just as clear and dynamic on the English track as it is on the others - and I'm sure you are well aware that a switch from DD 5.1 to PL2 would be very obvious.

And not including a 5.1 track in English but for all other languages would be most unlikely and if they had it would be a manufacturing fault

So it sounRAB like a glitch your end .

You wont get TruHD via optical anyway:confused:
My Panasonic player and Denon amp don't seem to be doing anything differently to other Blurays
 
Just occurred to me that your downmix settings may be wrong.
I'm surprised at how many Bluray discs use DTS sound with no DD option at all.

Even the Star Trek tv Blurays are DTS only.

I suggest you look in the audio settings of your player where you might find you've set DD to downmix to PCM which is why you're not getting 5.1
 
The back of the steelbook has an info sheet on it which claims there is an English stereo track and English 5.1 aswell as the TruHD track - however the disc only has the latter.
 
As does mine.

Yes, I'm aware I won't get DDTHD via SPDIF (optical or coax), which is why I'm surprised I'm not getting DD5.1.

DD5.1 works fine on my system for all other inputs - BBC HD, GOM player, etc., etc. And it works fine for all other Blu-Ray movies too. So I'll be very surprised if it's anything to do with my system.

The best I can do is RABP passthrough, which sounRAB dynamic, but I'm not sure it's accurate, because it isn't a Dolby sound track.

Don't understand why you referred to DTS, that's not on the recording anyway.

I can get DD5.1 on all other languages and audio description. As you say, commentary is in 2.0 (DD PLII 5.1).

Because all other sources (including other BD disks) work correctly your suggestion that therre must be something wrong my end doesn't stack up, especially not if I can get DD5.1 via every other language on the disk.

The only other way I may be able to get it to work is to set up 6 analogue connections from the PC to the Azur, leaving ArcSoft TMT to do the Dolby processing, by passing the receivers decoder. But it's a lot of hassle for me because there's a lot of very heavy kit to move out of the way.
 
Maybe, but I'm always a bit dubious of that. If everything else works as it should, why, and indeed how, could it be faulty? If it jumped or skipped, then fine.

It even plays DD5.1 during the Paramount lead-in when you start playing the disk.

My best bet would be to contact the distributors, but that's very difficult, as Paramount don't seem to have any direct means of communication. :mad:
 
I've asked on other forums and many have had the disc for a while - albeit the US one and nobody has reported problems.

The fact that mine works ok and yours is ok except for the TruHD track would point to a faulty disc.

Are you able to borrow another copy from someone to check?

The reason I mentioned DTS was because there seem to be more Blurays that default to DTS aswell as more that do not even bother with DD at all I wondered if perhaps you may not have sampled a DD Bluray before in which case your downsampling settings might have been wrong - but obviously that is not the case
 
I'll continue to ask around, but most of the people I know (especially family) wouldn't know the difference between DD5.1 and a haddock.
 
I guess they thought that as the Chekov mythology had already been busted in Star Trek 2 when Khan recognises him despite the fact that Chekov was not in season 1 they could see no reason to worry about it here either(or are you referring to the performance?)
 
Just been reading up on "hidden audio tracks" and I've lifted this from another forum but it sounRAB logical

"It's usually player specific as the way Dolby TrueHD works is the discs have a hidden DD5.1 track on them (not selectable via the menu or audio button but it's defaulted to on players that aren't set to output lossless audio). On some discs/player combos this track isn't seen/defaulted to so instead the player has to downmix the 5.1 TrueHD and most players can only do this as 2ch. "
 
I watched my BD of "Star Trek" this afternoon. PS3 hooked up to a Yamaha RABP-A5 (DD/DTS 5.1 only) via optical.

No problems at all - full DD 5.1.
 
There is no way to access the hidden 5.1 track.
Checked around and the way its supposed to work is that if your player is not set to output the HD audio then the player itself should default to the standard 5.1 track - presumably that is what mine does.

What player do you have?
Do you have other Blurays where the only Dolby track is the HD one and the regular one is not on the menu.

Many Blurays will have the standard 5.1 accessible on the menu
 
I use TotalMedia Theatre set to output via my PCs SPDIF output.

Mmmm I went back and double checked my blu-rays and it seems my receiver cannot down mix from true-hd to 5.1, as none of my disks, which don't have DTS, can do it.

I'm going to have to contact Cambridge to see if I'm right, or if there's a work around.
 
Same here the only difference being on the PS3 I had to set the audio output to SPDIF only instead of both HDMI & SPDIF.With both enabled I only got a Dolby Pro track.
 
Not really, my receiver supports DTS too.

But there's definitely something fishy going on.

I have a second system, running the same software, the same LG Blu-Ray drive and the same sound card on the PCs motherboard.

That processes the movie fine as DTS Digital! That's fine by me, but the film doesn't say it has a DTS soundtrack and DTS certainly isn't selectable on the setup menu!!

The only difference I can find is the AV Amp. The working one is a rather lowly Logitech Z-5400.

I've asked Cambridge Audio to look into the matter, to see what the problem might be.
 
Thanks to MikeK on the AV Forums for this fix:

Just to clarify what I did to make Total Media Theatre perform True-HD->DD5.1 downmixing. Well, it doesn't show as Dolby Digital 5.1 on my receiver, it simply shows as 5.1 - I'm guessing from what I've read, and witnessed on my receiver, it is actually DTS Digital 5.1 - which is much the same, or even better.

Remove any disks from your Blu-Ray player.

Start Total Media Theatre.

Click on the small "spanner" icon. This brings up the Setup window.

Click on the Audio tab at the top.

You will now see that the "Enable Audio Mixer" checkbox is visible and changeable. Simple populate it with a tick, by clicking on it.

Click on the Ok button, then close Total Media Theatre in the normal way.

Then load up your favourite movie which wouldn't work before and "Hey Presto" glorious 5.1 audio during the movie (playback equipment dependant, of course).

I hope this helps some others, too.
 
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