I'm by no means an expert on ST time lines or canon, although I'm pretty sure there are changes to the mentioned history of the Federation throughout thr various series. The Eugenics War (what ever that was) comes rto mind for some reason. The only concrete instance of an event being re-written or ignored that I can recall right now is in the movie Generations when Enterprise D is destroyed. But in All Good Things, the final TNG episode, Riker comes to the rescue from the future in the same ship, complete with extra nacelle. So unless Star Fleet took another Galaxy class ship and re-named it Enterprise D after the original was destroyed, the two events are incongruous.
Star Trek Re-boot - good or bad? Non-trekkies welcome!
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dudemanman
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i am a fan of The Originial Series mainly and The Next Generation , i did like all the other series though ...yes even Enterprise to a degree....i am sure we would all like to see more Star Trek in some form so i welcome the re-invention ...lets hope it makes a bundle ... 
brianna_chelsea
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If memory serves though, didn't they say at the end of that episode that the reason Picard told the crew what he had experienced was because it wasn't set as the future, it was still to be written, something like that. I remember that the "present" crew of that episode didn't recall any of the things he did while back in the "past" - showing that the "past" and "future" he was experiencing were only existing because of the anomoly (however you spell it) ?
Or am I talking rubbish!
Or am I talking rubbish!
Texas fountain.
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As long as the movie is good and has enough in it to identify it with the ST universe I think it'll be just fine. It just neeRAB a decent story, well told and well visualised.
For my money, neither Voyager or Enterprise needed to be made as far as I can tell they added nothing to the canon and struck me as a "jobs for the boys" exercise.
Voyager was generally dire, rehashing old storylines badly.
I was willing to give Enterprise TV space but quite frankly the simply appallingly bad Scott Bakula did it for me. I just couldn't get past how bad an actor he is. A single facial expression that never varied, a single stance (sitting or standing), flat monotonous delivery. Astonishingly bad actor! The man should be stripped of his equity card!
I've got a pair of shoes with more expression than him.
For my money, neither Voyager or Enterprise needed to be made as far as I can tell they added nothing to the canon and struck me as a "jobs for the boys" exercise.
Voyager was generally dire, rehashing old storylines badly.
I was willing to give Enterprise TV space but quite frankly the simply appallingly bad Scott Bakula did it for me. I just couldn't get past how bad an actor he is. A single facial expression that never varied, a single stance (sitting or standing), flat monotonous delivery. Astonishingly bad actor! The man should be stripped of his equity card!
I've got a pair of shoes with more expression than him.
TigerLilly
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Good point, but I don't think the two events are incongruous.
In All Good Things, the future we see is not bound to happen, because it was witnessed by Picard of our time. Once you witness the future, it is no longer the future, because you can change it.
In that future, Riker and Worf were "enemies", but Picard seemed to be making an effort to prevent that from ever happening, and to keep the group closer. I think that is why he plays poker with them at the end, and I don't think he would have played poker if he hadn't have seen the future. So the poker game is the start of a brand new future. (One in which the Enterprise gets trashed.)
One could speculate that after seeing the rift between Riker and Worf in the future (caused by the death of Deanna), Picard tried to get the three to socialise more. This led to Troi spending time on the holodeck playing batleth games with Worf and Riker, rather than continuing her studies as a newly-promoted commander. Her lack of training led to her crashing the ship in Generations, whereas before she would have spent all her spare time doing flight training.
Another explanation is that everything that happened in All Good Things was just part of Q's games, and the "future" which Picard experienced was really just one of Q's jokes or illusions. Or it was a future from an alternate reality.
I mean, don't forget, Q put the entire cast into a Robin Hood scenario. Are those events incongruous with the history of Nottingham? Or was it all just fantasy.
In All Good Things, the future we see is not bound to happen, because it was witnessed by Picard of our time. Once you witness the future, it is no longer the future, because you can change it.
In that future, Riker and Worf were "enemies", but Picard seemed to be making an effort to prevent that from ever happening, and to keep the group closer. I think that is why he plays poker with them at the end, and I don't think he would have played poker if he hadn't have seen the future. So the poker game is the start of a brand new future. (One in which the Enterprise gets trashed.)
One could speculate that after seeing the rift between Riker and Worf in the future (caused by the death of Deanna), Picard tried to get the three to socialise more. This led to Troi spending time on the holodeck playing batleth games with Worf and Riker, rather than continuing her studies as a newly-promoted commander. Her lack of training led to her crashing the ship in Generations, whereas before she would have spent all her spare time doing flight training.
Another explanation is that everything that happened in All Good Things was just part of Q's games, and the "future" which Picard experienced was really just one of Q's jokes or illusions. Or it was a future from an alternate reality.
I mean, don't forget, Q put the entire cast into a Robin Hood scenario. Are those events incongruous with the history of Nottingham? Or was it all just fantasy.