Stacked female characters from children shows? Inappropriate?

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Wes H

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I know this is a touchy subject, but thought we could discues this in a mature matter.

Does anyone noticed that on many cartoons that are for kids that some of the female characters are highly developped if you know what I mean? Anyone else see that?

If so, do you feel that is inappropraite? One thing for shows like Family Guy, but for shows that are for kids, maybe that might not appropriate for that audiance. Maybe the animators should be a little more responsible with their character designs.
 
do you think kids would care about sex appeal?

heck when I was younger I did not notice "red hot riding hood" until I was13-15 and don't get me started with jessica rabbit lol
 
Your right, they probably wouldn't care or notice, but their parents might. I am not trying to take one side or another here.

However I think a difference in this arguement is if the characters are adults or teenagers? If they are adult characters that happen to be on a kids show, that might be more acceptable than a teenager character.
 
Not that I am referring to you warnerbroman, I know I took a risk starting a thread with this subject,
but this is an advance warning, let's try to watch our language here, and not say any words that might have to be censered.

I hope we can have a mature converstaion like adults.
 
Well, if you have any females on cartoons at all, unless they're toddlers or under 13, they will have boobs. Some are larger than others, some aren't, so do they kind of do have to be real world accurate to an extent. I know Hello Nurse from Animaniacs is somewhat of a homage to the Tex Avery-type females, it's practically blatant.
 
I have a feeling you're talking about anime girls like Bouquet from Blue Dragon and May from Pokemon. I'm not sure of western examples, if their are any.

That's just something a lot of animes do with their female characters, they've been doing it for years. It shouldn't be much a problem.
 
Yes indeed anime does more often than not, Sailor Moon for example the english dubs reduced the you know what of the characters.

Since you mention Pokemon, a character that comes to mind is Cassidy.
 
It strikes me as kind of silly to repeatedly say "let's have a mature discussion as adults" but then forbid people from saying 'fetish' or 'breasts'. Calling them 'you-know-whats' makes it seem more like an elementary school playground discussion than mature conversation.

I don't think this is a big issue, in Western animation at least. I haven't noticed too many instances of it, and most kids probably don't any attention to the characters' breasts, unless they're really over-the-top and distracting. If a character does have large breasts, it might be to attract an older male audience, which is admittedly a cheap tactic on the part of the show's creators, especially if it's aimed at kids.

I haven't watch too many Japanese kids' shows lately, but I do remember there being some issues over obscenely large-chested characters in the Pokemon manga.

Also, I may as well link to 'Fan Service' at TV Tropes, since that seems to be basically what we're discussing:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Fanservice
 
Well, I think May is a more blatant example of this sort of thing on "Pok?mon" - she was intended to be somewhere around 10 or 11 years old, yet she had the chest of a teenager. I remember when the Hoenn episodes were airing in America, there was tons of discussion about this - it was never censored, but it caused a lot of confusion among viewers who weren't sure how old May was supposed to be.
 
I agree on those points. I see what you mean, and I remember that discussion when those seasons.

But I think Cassidy is someone that should have reduction surgery.
 
I think it has to do with the animators not viewing animated women that way anymore. Some of them, like Tex Avery, obviously wanted the females to be attractive, but a lot probably don't view cartoon characters that way anymore (back then, Betty Boop, an animated character, was a sex symbol, but now all the sex symbols are real women)

I believe people like Craig McCracken mentioned once that he didn't care for all the "adult drawings" of his Foster characters. Now, a more perverted animator would probably poke fun at it or not care, or even try to slip nudity/whatever things in their own show. It would also explain why live-action kids shows like Zoey 101 and Hannah Montana periodically refer to breasts and other sexual things; because real girls being into that stuff makes more sense (and executives also trying to push those girls into being the hottest thing in the media)

So while we can still find some busomed females in cartoons today, it's not many probably because the people who made them don't view them that way, not so much censorship (since we can still see it pop up now and then),
 
When I was watching Roger Rabbit in 1990, the breast jokes from Jessica Rabbit went right over me. I don't think I actually noticed them until I was re-watching the movie in 1999.
 
I don't really think this is a problem for two reasons...

1) I don't see any point in censoring stuff that any normal kid is going to see everyday of their lives. When I was a kid my mother cursed like a sailor, half the adults I knew smoked and I got nose bleeds on a bi-weekly basis. So removing all traces of profanity, tobacco or blood from my Saturday morning viewing really accomplished nothing.

By the same token, if you want to keep your kids from seeing breasts then you going to have to lock them up in the basement because a good 50% of the planets population are sporting a pair. (oh and you better not let them near mom while your at it.)

2) Kids don't really notice this stuff anyway. Your average seven year old boy isn't going to pay any more attention to Jessica Rabbit's bousom then they would to her earlobe. I watched the original Ninja Turtle's cartoon almost as far back as I can remember and yet it wasn't 'till I was nearly fifteen that I first noticed April O'neil's cleavege.
 
No I don't think so. If all female cartoon characters had flat chests or small breasts their bodies would be the same and it would be bland. Why have characters with the same body type? Male characters have muscles which are also considered attractive but they aren't meant to be in nature and the same with breasts so why don't we make all men have the same bodies as well?
Also you see women with various breast sizes in real life as well so you may as well make all women wear big sweaters because a kid will see much worse in real life than in a cartoon, Anyway kids won't even notice them because even the rare kids who are attracted to women will be because they think she's pretty not because of her chest.
 
I find it amusing that Disney insisted that the busty plastic bikini girl in their Knick Knack short needed to be Keira Knightley-ed so that the Pixar movie it was attached to (Finding Nemo?) would be assured a G rating, while pretty much every Disney Princess since Ariel in The Little Mermaid has sported an exaggerated bosom (and often a bare midriff calling even more attention to their chest). Mulan was one of the only recent Disney heroines to have a flat chest, and that was pretty much just because that was neccesary to the film's plot as she had to be to pass as a boy (which, say, Pocahontas would never be able to do).

As for busty cartoon females being "inappropriate", boys don't even like girls until they hit 13 or so, so it's really the parents' reaction that's amusing. Hey, Chel from Road To El Dorado is pretty hot, so she's obviously warping the mind of my five-year-old son! :shrug:
 
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