Space Systems/Loral Selected to Provide Nimiq 6 Satellite for Telesat Fleet

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I don't see a two dish solution in Bell's future. It's just too cumbersome and most people would pick digital cable if that was the only option for satellite. I also think Bell needs to simplify the current cabling infrastructure needed for satellite, for the same reason (even if it's just DPP).

That SWM technology that DirectTV has developed is pretty cool. One line from the dish, and one line to each receiver. Can't get much simpler than that! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkpahQBYFYc&feature=related

-Mike
 
You mean like they are serving Bell subscribers with Nimiq 5? :rolleyes:


N1 will need replacing by then. N2's expected life is unknown but it cannot be used a full capacity.
 
I think of it as being complicated in terms of troubleshooting technical issues.
Right now, if you're missing all of your HD channels, then you know you've got trouble with 82.
 
I figure Bell probably know what they are doing because the cost to put up a satellite is got to be 100's or millions its not something you do lightly, there is serious planning involved. It would be life cycled out to the 15 year life span in every detail.
 
Yeah right. Just like they did with Nimiq 2.....lol Never did work right from about day 4.
 
Mike, nice link. It is a good idea but really the cabling is not much different than DPP. Both make so much more sense then the legacy setup Bell TV is using. I agree there is no way they will go to a two dish setup and the use of a SW64. What a mess that would be. I'm sure they will use the 17 GHz frequency and utilize the two 82W & 91W locations they alreay have. It would be crazy not to IMO.

RC, really it is no big deal, once you know the channel number you can look up which satellite (there is only two) and then which transponder which you would have to do anyway. If the CSR/tech support will have a problem with that it would be best to let them go.
 
Certainly looks like a replacement.

Cost for a satellite is about $250 million + launch costs, insurance etc.

You can't blame Bell (or Telesat) for problems with Nimiq 2. It was built by Lockheed Martin and satellites are extremely complex pieces of technology. There's probably more limp birds floating around up thaere than you'd can to know.
 
There are bellTV SD receivers that have 8psk tuners...the ones manufactured after 2003 will have one.

Broadcom's 8PSK (Phase Shift Keying) turbo code technology across EchoStar's newest line of DISH Network™ satellite TV receivers, including the DISH 111, DISH 311, DISH 322,
 
As I suspected then,, basically any native DP compatible receiver has 8psk decoding abilities...
 
If that is correct merve04, this would mean that the 3100 would accept 8PSK and that receiver would not fall into the realm of "EchoStar's newest line of DISH Network™ satellite TV receivers", as said by DEV666.

The 4100 is the ONLY new SD receiver Bell have used since the 3100 appeared, what must be at least 8 or 9 years ago, so I would think that might have a chance but I would doubt the 3100 could handle it.
 
The 3100 and 5800 receivers can only detect the signal on a few of Bell 82 transponders now as compared to before last June when they were able to pick them all up. This happened after the switchover to 8PSK, so I would say they do not accept 8PSK
 
Exactly. The same with the 4100, I just tried it.

So that leads to the conclusion that none of the SD receivers that are currently in service with Bell TV can handle 8PSK, so the chances of Bell switching SD to 8PSK, in the foreseeable future, must be very remote indeed.
 
Bell also never used Dish 311's either they carried 301:10's, the 311's had a internal smartcard.

Bell had a verison of the Dish 322 called the Bell 3200, it was a dual tuner with a internal smartcard, but only a small number were ever produced and put into use as it was a problem plauged piece of garbage.

Bell's 4100 is based on Dish's 111 but as Pinza stated that pick up Bell's 8PSK transponders on 82. It is also a piece on junk.
 
Testing to see if the receiver has satellite signal proves nothing. The firmware may not have 8psk capabilities enabled....there is no reason for it to be yet. Taking off the cover and reading the broadcom # from the tuner would tell you.
I believe the 8psk ready SD receivers are the 3200, 4100 & 5200.
 
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