Some discuss letting both partners have an equal say with regards to an abortion.?

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Do you think this is ever possible? What would you suggest if one partner wants to keep the child and the other wants to abort? (I'm leaving it gender neutral since both partners have equal say)

Or does biology make this kind of ideal impossible?

Also, bear in mind the different MOTIVES for wanting to keep a pregnancy or not. It isn't always about financial support or desire to have kids. It can relate to health, the pregnancy/childbirth process itself, or any other number of things.
Alpha Scorpii-- What if she wants an abortion but he does not?
 
I absolutely think men need more reproductive rights. The situation as he have it now is that they have the burden of responsibility. Women have the relief of options. This has to change.

To be honest I think it would be really great if they invented an artificial womb. That way the "her body" issue wouldn't matter, and sex could become just sex for the sake of sex.

Of course I think the feminists would oppose this - it would completely destroy their claim that mothers are more important than fathers, and that a father is an optional extra in a child's life as long as he keeps sending the cheques.

And it is NOT "her body". It's THE CHILD'S body.

"You can't force her to have the baby" - how about we say "maybe she should have kept her legs closed if she didn't want it". Because after all when a guy doesn't want the kid everyone just said "should've kept it in your pants"
 
I really don't think that's possible. Maybe one person wants a child, but the other just isn't ready. Maybe the woman doesn't want to give birth, and her partner shouldn't force her to do that.
 
I completely agree with hopscotch I never thought I would but I do. Everything he said is how I feel it should be. If women choose not to have a child by a man they shouldn’t have to. But if a woman decides to and he doesn’t he shouldn’t have to. This is what happens when babies aren’t planned, this is why people have to be smarter!
 
Just like what has all ready been said, it wouldn't make sense for the one that doesn't carry the child to make the finale decision.
 
Unfortunately every baby has one mother and one father which can sometimes mean there is a draw in the decision to have or not have a baby. Since the mother is required to keep the growing fetus alive her vote edges out the fathers vote. One would hope that instincts would make her choose to protect her baby, but this isnt always the case.
 
No, not possible to have a choice over someone else's body.

But men should have the right to opt out of any and all responsibility of the child if she decides to keep it and they're not married or proof of a committed relationship cannot be established.
 
Nope. Someone has got to make the final decision, and it wouldn't make sense for the guy to be able to force the woman to have an abortion, or force her to have a child. Yes, it's half his child and half hers so it would make sense for them both to have equal say, but it's 100% her body which puts her ahead and makes her the final decision maker.
 
There is a very simple solution to this that you are overlooking.

If the man doesn't want the child, let him opt out.

It's her body, her choice, her responsibility.

I mean this when there actually still is time to make a choice about this, not if the couple decided to have a baby, and the father sticks around for a couple of years, then leaves. In that case there should be child support, but if a woman gets pregnant and doesn't know who the father is, then it is her responsibility to be able to support the child if she insists on having it. She has the choice of abortion or adoption. She should not have the choice of forcing a man who doesn't want the child and is no longer involved with her to support a child he did not want.
Let's assume that no one has the right to force a woman to carry a child or to force her to abort, then she does not have the right to force a man to support her child if it is against his will. That's called equality.
I'm not saying let a man opt out of being a father after the fact if he knew that a woman was pregnant with his baby, and I'm also not saying that a man should be forced to support a child a few years down the road that he didn't even know about. This is commonsense and it's only fair. The argument, "What about the child? The child's welfare is most important?" That is easily answered by welfare, or better yet, adoption. Women have to take some responsibility for something if they want all these rights they've fought for.
No one is responsible for anyone elses actions, get that lunacy out of your heads right now.

EDIT: It's her body, and the final choice is up to her, so she gets her abortion. We can't force a woman to bear a child if she is dead set against it. It may be time for the wouldbe father to find a mate more suitable for his family preferences then.
 
Women should never be forced to abort their children or to have their children.

...Just like you shouldn't force a man to pay for a child he never wanted.

If women are allowed the ability to "opt out of parenthood" then men deserve that same right.

Either ban abortion or give men the right to "financially abort" the child.

Anything else is unfair, unConstitutional, and discriminatory.

Our laws give women 3 ways to abandon or terminate their child and men have 0 ways.

If that situation were reversed there'd be riots in the streets. Men need to stop letting society roll over them because of feminist imposed "guilt."

This will change some day. Men are waking up.
 
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