Sobriety check points and the 4th amendment

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First flaw in your argument...I didn't say "fire a gun into a crowd" I said fire a gun over your head. Second flaw, if I'm doing it with the intent of missing you, and I miss you, there no criminal intent.
 
you know where they will be and the time they will be there. (They have to post that info beforehand)
you can turn around before you get up to it.

They have given people the out from going through one. That's how they get around the 4th amendment (although it's still very sketchy)
 
Always refuse to blow. Period. Don't piss, don't blow, don't take a sobriety test.

If you're drunk and you get pulled over, you're going to lose your license regardless of what you do. Your safest bet is to at least try to avoid a conviction, and you can start that by not providing the DA with any concrete evidence.
 
And thus have given the police reasonable suspicion that you are driving drunk, according to him.
 
That's not a flaw in my argument. It doesn't affect my argument one iota.


You don't know what "criminal intent" means.
 
Holy fuck, do people even read their bill of rights? Or just assume that gov't is going to be good to them and not take away their freedoms?
 
yep.

it woudl have been better for him to club the fucking shit out of him for ignoring a lawful order.
 
Wrong answer. He said he'd go cross country. In your example, the guy stayed on the road. He should'a headed for the field
 
Yes, it pretty much does, since "him" was William Rehnquist, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, writing for the majority in Michigan State Police v. Sitz, which is the prevailing ruling on DUI checkpoints.
 
so you have the right to eat nothing or suck nothing's titties because you don't have the right to a wife!

in conclusion, you have no rights at all!

circular logic works, because circular logic works
 
Living in a state that did away with Sobriety checkpoints.....and being from a state that had them (Nevada)...Id rather have the checkpoints anyday.....To compensate for not having checkpoints they pull you over for anything and run your tabs anytime without due cause....you may not even be a drinker or not even had a drop, and they will pull your ass over, claim anything as "Due Cause" and let you go on a warning.

In other words...be careful about what you bitch about, because often times the alternative is worse
 
If you "accidentally" kill me while doing an intentional act, (e.g., fire a gun in my direction and hit me when you're meaning to miss me), you are considered to have had criminal intent.


"Intent" does not mean what you think it means. You should just stop now while you're not ahead.
 
That's actually not my "whole position" at all.

My position is that it's not an unreasonable seizure, because it's not compulsory.
 
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