So where does my life go from here?

well what can i say. i f'ed up. i just lost my what.cd account of 2 years, and it was my life. i cant tell you how many endless hours i spent reading album reviews, scouring the collages and forums for that perfect track. i boasted to all my music loving friends about my enormous collection and how i could get anything in just a few clicks. i bought albums just upload them for the request bounties. ahh...those dreamy nights, me and what laying there together, tired from running through the fields all day together.

But the love affiar ended as all good things do. i got greedy and tried to trade invites for an invite to bitme and got caught.i came back to my computer to find my account logged out and the big red letters directing me to the irc. i joined and tried to be as honest with them as i could. i told them exactly what i did and where and why. but they said they dont trust me anymore and showed me the door. now im just sitting here dumbstruck as to what just happened. to be perfectly honest i didnt realize it was so frowned upon but ignorance isnt an excuse.

so now what. i feel so naked and empty, like my girlfriend just dumped me. has anyone had any experiences with the staff there? do they ever forgive and forget? or should we start seeing other people.

Hmm seems like you got addicted to what.cd ,spending countless hours reading their forums,torrenting etc. I feel for you coz you dont seem like the typical trader who would trade just for the fun of it plus you wouldn't really be attached to the site if you were one.

Apart from spending all that time in the forums if only you had read the rules a couple of times seriously then you may have avoided this serious error ?
Frankly,I may have given you a second chance looking at your contribution to the site if i was a staffer coz you seem genuine in your effort to redeem yourself but I'm not one and I dont get to make that call.

Don't lose heart, try getting into waffles and I'm sure some of that emptiness you feel would go away,great site that. Goodluck:)
 
Albo,

You still seem to have sympathies for occasional/"a few" trades. I still (and probably will always) stick to the analogy of a tracker being someone's house (the site owner(s) and staff). Trading (any) is a violation of that house. While I would not equate trading to feeling up someone's wife, I would probably place it somewhere around kicking their dog.

I would not tolerate anyone kicking my dog. Not even once. They just would not be welcome after that. If I decided to forgive them, they would be on very thin ice from that point on...

I agree that breaking a site's rules by trading is disrespectful to the tracker owner, especially if the user in question has violated more than once...Although I don't think it's disrespectuf enough to go around and global ban him or end that users BT career over a simple mistake.

I know it's a lot easier to give somebody the boot and shut the door, than to take time and talk to that user into becoming a good member in the future...
I feel that if i was to show comfort to a trader by talking to him, giving him a couple of invites, show him that trading is not the easy way out..that person will understand and take my advice and change paths in the future

We have to understand that most traders don't know many people in the BT community like we do and it's a little harder for them to get into the trackers that they want to get in, therefore taking the easy way out(trading) seems more convenient to them
Although I bet that if 90% of them knew how things worked, they wouldn't result to trading

What i'm saying is that ignorance leads to making the wrong moves, and punishing them will only lead to more confusion. I'd rather enlighten them
 
He certainly cannot plead ignorance if he gets caught again. As I mentioned, I cannot argue any benefits from further breaking the rules of the site he has expressed his enjoyment in being a member of.

As for flying "under the radar" or "quietly", this is a fairly public place. Perhaps the equivalent of robbing a doughnut shop in front of a police station. His chances of getting caught (not that he should even try it, IMO) have GREATLY increased.

I will give you the possibility that he may be unknown, or a non-poster. His history here coincides with that possibility. However, IF his story is entirely true, he spends A LOT of time in the forums, reading about a topic he is very interested in. His post in this thread does not strike me as someone who cannot express himself. He actually came across as somewhat sincere or I would not bother with this thread.

As for abandoning the rules of this community because many of us ignore copyright laws, is in itself flawed. Personally, I enjoy this community and wish to remain a long-time member of it. I have no such allegiance to the mentioned industries. In fact, in terms of the uninhibited flow of information that we all enjoy here, I see them as hostile combatants who wish to dismember the internet for their own self-interests. I do not see this community as such. If I wanted (yuck) to be part of that slimy, filth ridden community of whores (apologies to any of the literal and, IMO, far more respectable professional sex workers reading this) and extortionists, I would probably align my loyalties in their direction. *pukes at the thought*
 
Also what ca_ok said, how did you miss the recruitment threads?[/QUOTE]

i never saw any. the only thing i saw in the forums were people getting warned for asking for invites. but they might have existed. i just went about getting a bitme invite the wrong way and i just fucked myself. im not a trader, im just retarded and didnt realize there were other ways of getting invites.

LESSON LEARNED
 
i had just bought 10 albums i was going to upload for requests this weekend. lol oh well

yeah i get it. i realize trading is very bad now. ill figure something out.
 
The ironic part of that statement is that What's Invites forum, along with the Invites threads for Elites/TMs are probably enough to get people into almost any tracker they desire, aside from their banned tracker invites list (the e-peen trackers+waffles). BitMe would've been obtainable if he'd put in the effort.

As I see it, he broke a cardinal rule of the tracker. In a community of 100K users, they couldn't care less about 1 person who chose to break tracker rules. My suggestion is learn from your mistakes, try and join Waffles, and move on.
 
in most cases, traders are simply hopeless cause they are stubborn, greedy kids but thankfully, there are also some good apples.
2 or 3 days ago, i posted in the trade section for the lulz and really, i didn't expect to receive a single pm (actually, i got plenty of trade propositions); one of them provided me with 3 unedited profile screenshots from renowned trackers he donated to. i could have make him banned easily but the guy was cool enough to deserve a chance (anyhow, who am i to get someone banned from his trackers?).
in the end, i talked a bit and gave him a couple of advices; i think and i hope he will make a good bt user from now on.

Cine creates the new BT program called "Scared Straight".

Nice job, Cine! :happy:
 
There's still Waffles, Demonoid(when it comes back), Torrents.ru, plus countless warez forums/blogs and Soulseek. So don't kill yourself just yet. What is great, but they're not the only game in town. So get over it...

And you're right, Oink did allow the trading of their invites(even mentioned this in their Faq). But you should have known that What is dead-set against that type of behavior. You should have read their rules first.
 
Alright, I'll type really slow so you can (hopefully) understand...

Trading got him in trouble in the first place. Circumventing site rules further will get him in... *looks around for someone who can answer* even more trouble. That's what he needs! Maybe he can get booted from some of the other sites he likes as well. Let's take a guy who has made an error in judgment and turn him into a social (BT) leper.

And if you are opposed to sharing files. Go away! Certainly don't sign up for a site called "FileSharingTalk" and...NVM.

Anyway, there are rules in this community, breaking them leads to troubles like the OP is facing.

Ya I agree hes a dumbass for trading... but you called me out so simply trying to help the guy.
Opposed to sharing files? I never said that, but since you think sharing is OK and trading invites is "BAD"... I sense arguing w/ you is moot.
 
I don't agree with stripping someone down of their favorite trackers, just because they made a little mistake, especially if it was because he traded a few invites or two. I'm sure the Op's intention of getting another account were strong. Maybe he traded for a dedicated tracker like blackcats, hdbits, musicvids etc.., a tracker that he was going to use and not sit on it
 
i was a member of oink way back in the day and it seemed to be more accepted like 3 or 4 years ago. i never saw any big rules back then about sharing invites. im not saying i didnt know it was wrong but i didnt think it was that big of a deal to get a banning. im not making excuses either way. i made a mistake and paid the consequences. it just sucks cause that place was paradise for me.
 
Martinator- great idea! I think that a section header (not just a sticky) would be of benefit. I have talked to some new people over the past few months who truly had no idea that trading was a BT social taboo. They just wanted into the sites and thought that would be a "fair" way to do it. And, as an outsider, why would new people expect to get invites for free? A lot of good people expect to give something for something received in the real world, why not online.

Albo, very nice post! I think that communicating with the new users is the absolute best thing we can do for the community. And I truly hope that you continue with the efforts!

However, this is a social network and norms must be upheld. We need to respect the tracker rules. Period. If we (BT users) are to go around and hand out invites to known traders (even to just help them out) we are, helping that/those individual(s) to circumvent site rules. We, rightfully, deserve to face punishment ourselves. Especially if we make it our mission to "help" people who have only made a mistake or two.

When someone screws up, they need to face punishment- whether they were ignorant or not. If they have gotten into trouble at a certain tracker, they need to face that punishment at that tracker.

The global ban is another issue, but it is not handed out lightly. It is used for egregious incidents or a history of inappropriate actions. And, as you know, it is possible to talk to the individual trackers and plead your case. It is a lot of work for the individual and the tracker, but is necessary when people do things that seriously violate the community.

Individuals need to resolve their issues with the site(s) that were violated. Otherwise, we are essentially aiding and a bedding a "fugitive". That is serious IRL, and in any other community.

That's quite alot coming from a pirate :lol:
i wonder what the RIAA thinks when they stumble upon such reads :lol:
 
Albo,

You still seem to have sympathies for occasional/"a few" trades. I still (and probably will always) stick to the analogy of a tracker being someone's house (the site owner(s) and staff). Trading (any) is a violation of that house. While I would not equate trading to feeling up someone's wife, I would probably place it somewhere around kicking their dog.

I would not tolerate anyone kicking my dog. Not even once. They just would not be welcome after that. If I decided to forgive them, they would be on very thin ice from that point on...
there's a huge difference between breaking rules cause you don't care less about the trackers you're member of, and breaking the rules because of heedlessness/negligence/lack of attention.
 
This thread coupled with his rep point made me lol :P

If you were such an amazing member of the site and loved it so, you should've tried looking for an invite in their Invites forum or one of the invites threads for higher classes...
 
"thoughts" LOL
Yes, stealing music is far more pure and respectable than trading invites or getting another account for a bonehead ban. :frusty:

Alright, I'll type really slow so you can (hopefully) understand...

Trading got him in trouble in the first place. Circumventing site rules further will get him in... *looks around for someone who can answer* even more trouble. That's what he needs! Maybe he can get booted from some of the other sites he likes as well. Let's take a guy who has made an error in judgment and turn him into a social (BT) leper.

And if you are opposed to sharing files. Go away! Certainly don't sign up for a site called "FileSharingTalk" and...NVM.

Anyway, there are rules in this community, breaking them leads to troubles like the OP is facing.
 
i had just bought 10 albums i was going to upload for requests this weekend. lol oh well

yeah i get it. i realize trading is very bad now. ill figure something out.


Is it just me or is there somthing wrong with this phrase?

Torrenting is about getting stuff for free. And you go buy 10 albuns just to upload?

I would get it you DL from another source and then Upload on what.cd...
 
That's quite alot coming from a pirate :lol:
i wonder what the RIAA thinks when they stumble upon such reads :lol:

I am quite certain they would prefer to think of us as unorganized and non-communal. I would say we are anything but. :happy:

Edit- And I am sure they love my sig also. :happy:!!!
 
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