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megabyteme said:
Albo,

You still seem to have sympathies for occasional/"a few" trades. I still (and probably will always) stick to the analogy of a tracker being someone's house (the site owner(s) and staff). Trading (any) is a violation of that house. While I would not equate trading to feeling up someone's wife, I would probably place it somewhere around kicking their dog.

I would not tolerate anyone kicking my dog. Not even once. They just would not be welcome after that. If I decided to forgive them, they would be on very thin ice from that point on...
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Hey centuryfrog, first off, I don't know why you would trade, especially when you put all that time and money into your account. But respect for actually being honest about what you've done. Maybe you should write a 1000 word essay of apology and how you're never going to do something like this? Just a suggestion, a simple sorry doesn't earn trust back. If you really were a good user like you say you were, I'm sure the what.cd staff are reasonable enough to give you a second chance (invites disabled). Take it easy.
 
"Girlfriend"

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Like losing a "girlfriend".

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Albo Da Kid said:
I agree that breaking a site's rules by trading is disrespectful to the tracker owner, especially if the user in question has violated more than once...Although I don't think it's disrespectuf enough to go around and global ban him or end that users BT career over a simple mistake.

I know it's a lot easier to give somebody the boot and shut the door, than to take time and talk to that user into becoming a good member in the future...
I feel that if i was to show comfort to a trader by talking to him, giving him a couple of invites, show him that trading is not the easy way out..that person will understand and take my advice and change paths in the future

We have to understand that most traders don't know many people in the BT community like we do and it's a little harder for them to get into the trackers that they want to get in, therefore taking the easy way out(trading) seems more convenient to them
Although I bet that if 90% of them knew how things worked, they wouldn't result to trading

What i'm saying is that ignorance leads to making the wrong moves, and punishing them will only lead to more confusion. I'd rather enlighten them
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The easiest ay to enlighten them would be if FST got rid of the trading section and said clearly that trading is not allowed and also not tolerated. That's the ideal way.

However I have come up with a solution: what about putting a sticky in the trade section saying something like: ''Trading may cause serious problems, you may find yourself without any account, etc.'' Just a general warning type of thing...

Allthough, tbh, this section is filled with examples of what can happen when one trades, yet people still do it. Maybe my solution could help a few, though.
 
TrollinThunder said:
It's not that serious. He was probably a great what member and will be even more so with his new account. I think he should circumvent the 1 account per lifetime rule and enjoy the site again. I doubt he'll trade ever again.
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Right now, he has just made an error in judgment. Some people here (possibly myself included) would consider helping him in the future if he made a [Req], if he deliberately circumvents site rules again, he's out in the cold for many, many of us who could potentially help.

He should make further, respectable attempts to regain that original account. He may be able to find someone there (eventually) willing to overlook his boneheaded move. He will NEVER find sympathy there if he circumvents (tries) the rules again. AND his new account will always have the possibility of being discovered and banned.

No good will come of this. If he was such a long-time good user, he should have some friends there.
 
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Code: 
 Look at this photograph
Everytime I do it makes me laugh
How did our eyes get so red
And what the hell is on Joey's head
And this is where I grew up
I think the present owner fixed it up
I never knew we'd ever went without
The second floor is hard for sneaking out
And this is where I went to school
Most of the time had better things to do
Criminal record says I broke in twice
I must have done it half a dozen times
I wonder if it's too late
Should i go back and try to graduate
Life's better now than it was back then
If I was them I wouldn't let me in
Oh, oh, oh
Oh, god, I
Every memory of looking out the back door
I had the photo album spread out on my bedroom floor
It's hard to say it, time to say it
Goodbye, goodbye.
Every memory of walking out the front door
I found the photo of the friend that I was looking for
It's hard to say it, time to say it
Goodbye, goodbye.
Remember the old arcade
Blew every dollar that we ever made
The cops hated us hangin' out
They say somebody went and burned it down
We used to listen to the radio
And sing along with every song we know
We said someday we'd find out how it feels
To sing to more than just the steering wheel
Kim's the first girl I kissed
I was so nervous that I nearly missed
She's had a couple of kids since then
I haven't seen her since god knows when
Oh, oh, oh
Oh, god, I
Every memory of looking out the back door
I had the photo album spread out on my bedroom floor
It's hard to say it, time to say it
Goodbye, goodbye.
Every memory of walking out the front door
I found the photo of the friend that I was looking for
It's hard to say it, time to say it
Goodbye, goodbye.
I miss that town
I miss the faces
You can't erase
You can't replace it
I miss it now
I can't believe it
So hard to stay
Too hard to leave it
If I could I relive those days
I know the one thing that would never change
Every memory of looking out the back door
I had the photo album spread out on my bedroom floor
It's hard to say it, time to say it
Goodbye, goodbye.
Every memory of walking out the front door
I found the photo of the friend that I was looking for
It's hard to say it, time to say it
Goodbye, goodbye.
Look at this photograph
Everytime I do it makes me laugh
Everytime I do it makes me...
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If I were you though i'd make a TV worthy misery video of myself and post it on youtube before making this thread,that way it would be easier for the holier than thous to ignore all else and maybe have fun for once.Trust me,at the very least its therapeutic,plus it may lead to good things depending on how miserable you'll appear on the video ;).
 
well what can i say. i f'ed up. i just lost my what.cd account of 2 years, and it was my life. i cant tell you how many endless hours i spent reading album reviews, scouring the collages and forums for that perfect track. i boasted to all my music loving friends about my enormous collection and how i could get anything in just a few clicks. i bought albums just upload them for the request bounties. ahh...those dreamy nights, me and what laying there together, tired from running through the fields all day together.

But the love affiar ended as all good things do. i got greedy and tried to trade invites for an invite to bitme and got caught.i came back to my computer to find my account logged out and the big red letters directing me to the irc. i joined and tried to be as honest with them as i could. i told them exactly what i did and where and why. but they said they dont trust me anymore and showed me the door. now im just sitting here dumbstruck as to what just happened. to be perfectly honest i didnt realize it was so frowned upon but ignorance isnt an excuse.

so now what. i feel so naked and empty, like my girlfriend just dumped me. has anyone had any experiences with the staff there? do they ever forgive and forget? or should we start seeing other people.
 
Albo,

You still seem to have sympathies for occasional/"a few" trades. I still (and probably will always) stick to the analogy of a tracker being someone's house (the site owner(s) and staff). Trading (any) is a violation of that house. While I would not equate trading to feeling up someone's wife, I would probably place it somewhere around kicking their dog.

I would not tolerate anyone kicking my dog. Not even once. They just would not be welcome after that. If I decided to forgive them, they would be on very thin ice from that point on...
 
megabyteme said:
I respect the community and especially those who take the time, effort, and money to create and maintain a tracker. I also appreciate those who donate their time to moderating.
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as what megabyteme said, op, if u rly know what the dedicated ppls do,why u make such silly mistake to disappoint them

maybe ur a good member but as for what u did

short pleasure, long lament..................
 
Martinator- great idea! I think that a section header (not just a sticky) would be of benefit. I have talked to some new people over the past few months who truly had no idea that trading was a BT social taboo. They just wanted into the sites and thought that would be a "fair" way to do it. And, as an outsider, why would new people expect to get invites for free? A lot of good people expect to give something for something received in the real world, why not online.

Albo, very nice post! I think that communicating with the new users is the absolute best thing we can do for the community. And I truly hope that you continue with the efforts!

However, this is a social network and norms must be upheld. We need to respect the tracker rules. Period. If we (BT users) are to go around and hand out invites to known traders (even to just help them out) we are, helping that/those individual(s) to circumvent site rules. We, rightfully, deserve to face punishment ourselves. Especially if we make it our mission to "help" people who have only made a mistake or two.

When someone screws up, they need to face punishment- whether they were ignorant or not. If they have gotten into trouble at a certain tracker, they need to face that punishment at that tracker.

The global ban is another issue, but it is not handed out lightly. It is used for egregious incidents or a history of inappropriate actions. And, as you know, it is possible to talk to the individual trackers and plead your case. It is a lot of work for the individual and the tracker, but is necessary when people do things that seriously violate the community.

Individuals need to resolve their issues with the site(s) that were violated. Otherwise, we are essentially aiding and a bedding a "fugitive". That is serious IRL, and in any other community.
 
Going through life not realizing the difference between right and wrong is far worse than losing a tracker.
And as to "worth", not if you like music:ermm:

PlayeR said:
you are kidding right?
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Olfactory overload.

kukushka said:
centuryfog said:
Hey I had an account at bitme.org but havent used it in sometime. tried logging in and it was disabled. but im back in school and i would love to use this site again. does anyone have an invite? i had a good ratio and i can trade what.cd invite
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this is great. you didn't care for your acc on one tracker, you are breaking the rules on second and trying to get back to the first one. how nice from you.
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Benjamin said:
Hey centuryfrog, first off, I don't know why you would trade, especially when you put all that time and money into your account. But respect for actually being honest about what you've done. Maybe you should write a 1000 word essay of apology and how you're never going to do something like this? Just a suggestion, a simple sorry doesn't earn trust back. If you really were a good user like you say you were, I'm sure the what.cd staff are reasonable enough to give you a second chance (invites disabled). Take it easy.
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well i talked to the staff and since i traded once back in the oink days (when it was ok) and once recently, im a trader now. i was completely honest with them though with all their questions they asked.

before i kind of looked at it like pot. i didnt do it cause it was against the rules but i didnt see why it was wrong. i understand how it hurts the community now but honestly i didnt think it was a big deal cause i see people on forums like this every day offering invites. obviously i get it now.

and yes everyone it was a lapse in judgement. my desire to get into bitme.org overruled my common sense and i fucked up. i accept that. i wasnt really making the post to get everyone's sympathy. i thought you all would get a laugh off of it. other people's misfortune is funny right? and maybe as a warning to other what members not to end up like me.
 
DouglasQuaid said:
Just change your IP and get a new invite, what.cd is the easiest 'popular' tracker to get an invite to...
Also how did they find out? Most likely the guy you were trading w/ was staff or they ratted you out. (A bitme invite is worth 3x a what.cd invite)
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OP, My well-wishes are only extended if you avoid "thoughts" like this.:dry:
 
@centuryfog

As much as don't want to, I can't help but sympathize when I see a person admitting to his/her wrongdoings. If your account is so important to you, my best advice to you would be to not give up on it just yet. I've seen WhatMan around here on FST, and he seems to be a pretty decent fella. PM him and explain the situation, admit to your crimes fully and offer to do whatever it takes to get another chance. Mind you, I'm not suggesting you resort to begging, rather that you attempt to demonstrate to the What staff that you really do care about their site and understand your mistake. If you decide to go this route, make sure you're being polite and genuine, and hopefully that'll move them enough to warrant giving you another chance. Then again, I might just be talking from my arse, and your account could be lost forever. Worth a shot, imho, if you love the site as much as you claim to.

Anyway, best of luck to you. Hopefully you really did learn your lesson from this incident.
 
Best thing you could do is talk to them in IRC but you did that. Doubt anything will help recover your account. Will you continue trading after this?
 
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