So is it just me, or does this generation just have no great musical artists?

Good question....I always have a hard time referring people to their music because most people want to hear their best song or two before delving in to listen to more - but they don't really have 1 song that stanRAB out above the rest.

Zeppelin was a bad choice. Maybe more Pink Floyd than Led Zeppelin.
 
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You obviously have a deep understanding of music.

As someone that has been involved/loved music all my life, I think there is still great music being produced out there, but offer an even bigger question: How about comparisons to earlier times?

I've played Liszt's transcendental Etudes on Piano, Beethoven's Sonata's, Chopin's Nocturnes, etc. And then I ask myself....why hasn't there been someone of that genius in so long?
Mozart, Schubert, Debussy, Chopin, etc. Anyone familiar with these catalogues knows that these collections and libraries blow away everything since then.

My own musical tastes are wide and varied, from complete collections of the Beatles, to Jay-Z. But the fact remains that nothing compares to the genius of the music put out by earlier composers (in my opinion)


Who in your opinion is the most influential artist of the 19th and 20th centuries? How do they stack up to someone like Mozart? Beethoven? Chopin?
Who could you consider as even comparable in genius?
 
Lack of innovation/generic sound. When I listen to them I get bored, I feel corny and I feel cheapened for listening to them. The lyrics are terrible. I got really bored with shitty emo lyrics back when Sunny Day Real Estate did them and 14 years later it's no different. Obviously they moved to pop/rock lately which I don't listen to at all but even in the beginning they were treading over Socal punk that was done better by other socal punk banRAB before, something I also don't really listen to.

To me it's cheap, emotional music that plays to the teenage crowd, which is full of emotions and OMG I can't go out the the party tonight it's the end of the worrrrrrrrrld!
 
Mainstream has become generic bullshit. So if you use that definition yeah there's no good banRAB today. But there's plenty that in my opinion are better than many of the past great artists you guys are listing.

also a lot of you are getting old so of course all the banRAB you like are from the past



That's your opinion. I love classical music but more often than not I like modern music more.
 
Fair enough, but did you take a chance to listen to the song I posted? (Nadia)



Jake is still a newer artist, give him time. And in my personal experience, the more I listen to him, the more I understand the depths of his style. If you're trying to deny that Jake is a musical innovator, I've noticed a lot of people starting to pick up ukelele just becuase of his videos, and that's a sign of influence/innovation. Surely he is VERY young and has a lot of new stuff to come in the future. And he's honestly more of a live performer than anything. A lot of his stuff won't sound the same on CD as it does live becuase he tenRAB to improvise and it's as if everytime he plays live, he gets better.



I'm aware of that. My point is that very creative people wrote etudes too and use their intense techniques to make classical music. In fact, it's MUCH harder to play a lot of classical guitar than Steve Vai type stuff. My point was that you can have a really good technique and be very creative (Hence guys like Steve Vai, Jeff Beck, the entire band Queen, etc. and also classical musicians )




Ok, I think we're on the same page then. I thought you were trying to say that there will be no major innovators because no musicians these days are talented enough. My fault for the misassumption.



Well Bepop isn't really jazz fusion, it's just bepop (Though it branched of jazz, it has a genre of its own). Jazz fusion is the more electronic sounding jazz and wasn't really played by Miles Davis until he jammed with guys like Herbie Hancock late in Davis's career. If you litsen to those performances, Miles didn't really fit in.




It's good that you have your hopes up, but I don't see that coming anytime soon unfortunately
 
This thread is basically the same as the music thread. For some people, hip hop might have produced some great singers, to others (like me) they could care less about hip hop.

Although the music generation we live in has turned into more of a hip hop culture, I preferred the 90s rock generation.

In my opinion, right now the trance industry is producing some fine djs, and those are my 2 cents on the subject.

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I've had this conversation before. It certainly does seem as though the past produced more iconic artists than the present. Some small part of that might be the lack of recognition at the present, but I think it has more to do with the way music is made these days.

Not just the styles, but the pressure to produce an entire album. It's a simple matter of quality versus quantity. The closer singles draw to extinction, the less effort is put into each song in favor of pumping out twelve or fourteen tracks to throw on a cd.

Personally, I've never understood this drive to produce the cd. It's obviously not a function of supply and demand, for the simple reason that the majority of each cd never gets air time. Instead, one or two tracks do, and on the strength of that people are expected to go buy the cd with the other 12-14 shitty tracks.

Rather than pitching a product that people would like to have, record companies are pushing crap they think you will buy. Radio stations are now simply media outlets designed to sell those cd's based on that single song.

Now, if music packaging continues in the direction it is headed, with songs being purchased individually at a lower cost than cd's with lots of crap no one wants (but the justification for the higher price due to quantity), we will begin to see a change in the diversity of what is being offered. Hopefully, with diversity will come more quality through the ability to indulge more highly specific tastes rather than simply jumping on one of five available bandwagons.
 
Are you shitting me? Because very few peopole can actually play all of them and thats after you already achieve a level where improvement is just a realtive term. That and some are impossible to play if you don't have big enough hanRAB.
 
Totally agree. Actually music has been bad for the last several years. I was just watching some music videos from 80s legenRAB RATT and they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than anything today!

Songs like Round and Round, Lay it Down, You're in Love, Dance, Wanted Man, etc.

You may question them being legenRAB but they are in their own genre of hard rock 80s banRAB.
 
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