So I'm emptying out my fridge...

Re: [email protected]

sf wrote:


I'd call it too stupid or lazy to siphon the gas out of the generator when
it's not in use. I'm sure there are people who will let a generator sit for
a couple three years with gas in it planning to fire it up whenever needed.
Thing is, gas goes bad and there are other reasons not to store it in the
generator. OTOH it does little good to store a backup generator if you have
no gas on hand, since the conditions causing you to need the generator may
prohibit travel to get gas, or gas pumps from working. Gas should be stored
separately from the generator in an approved container, and replenished
periodically by putting the older gas in your car and replacing it with
fresh.
 
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 00:19:35 -0800 (PST), ItsJoanNotJoann
wrote:


I'll ditto that, Peter's reply to Barry looked like one long post.
Somebody needs OE-QuoteFix or MessageCleaner for Windows Mail
from microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail


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On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:18:23 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:


I like this one better-
http://www.fisheries.org/blog/what-is-the-difference-between-a-steelhead-and-rainbow-trout/

From 1792- 1988 they were different species. Now they are
supposedly the same.

To me, tough-- The Rainbow trout is caught in a stream and cooked
streamside-- Steelhead can be purchased in a grocery store.

I've frozen Rainbow trout, & though it doesn't taste like it does
fresh out of the water-- it sure isn't tasteless.

Same for Steelhead, though I've never eaten one streamside, so there
is a lot less flavor to start with.

Jim
 
"I_am_Tosk" wrote in message
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When we lived in NY, our power went out for about a week. I had just filled
the fridge and freezer. I had a lot of blue ice, some of which I moved to
the fridge. This was during the summer with heat in excess of 100 degrees.
Although I did not have a fridge or freezer thermometer, the food in the
fridge and freezer seemed fine for the first 24 hours. After about 48
hours, the popsicles were beginning to melt. At that point we threw it all
out.
 
On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:28:50 -0800, "Julie Bove"
wrote:


I love grocery shopping. Always have.

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On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 08:13:09 -0500, Jim Elbrecht
wrote:


I've seen Rainbow trout in the grocery store, Steelhead never... but I
don't linger over the fish case so maybe they've snuck in from time to
time. Trout isn't as common as it used to be here, even on restaurant
menus. Is it still a popular item in your neck of the woods?

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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:02:28 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
wrote:

If you don't like to cook food, don't like eating at other people's
homes or in restaurants and don't particularly like a wide variety of
food... why are you here?

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"Nunya Bidnits" wrote in message
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I have a side by side. As recommended by people on some newsgroup (not sure
which one) I got thermometers for them. My freezer seems to stay somewhere
between -10F at the warmest to -20, although that is as low as the
thermometer goes. It is possible that it could get colder.

The fridge however really seems to fluctuate. I have a different type of
thermometer in there. That one shows that perhaps once daily, I think
during the defrost cycle, it warms up enough that it is approaching an
unsafe temp. It does not ever reach the unsafe temp. I can't remember now
how that thermometer goes but it has a red zone that is unsafe. It reaches
about 10 degrees warmer than that. It doesn't stay at that temp for very
long at all, and then it gets colder again.

I should get the other kind, like I have in the freezer (I have extras
because we've already broken two) because they seem to be more accurate, and
put it in the fridge to see if there is a difference. I feel like it is,
but it is designed to hang on a wire shelf and that's not what I have in the
fridge. I had the other kind (like is in the fridge) in the freezer and it
indicated a problem. But... Those are magnetic ones and can only clip to
the side of the fridge or freezer. I've looked online and it says the best
way to tell is to put the thermometer in the middle of the fridge or freezer
where the food is.

Anyway... If he has a fridge like mine and it does approach a warmer temp.
And if the power went off when it was the warmer temp., then that could
explain the spoilage. It could also be that the food was recently put in
there and had been left out of refrigeration for close to or over 2 hours.

I can not tell you how many people I know who do this. They go shopping to
numerous stores and keep the food in their trunk, not on ice or in insulated
bags. Then they'll come home, answer the phone, start talking and a half an
hour later say that they have ice cream that needs top be put away. The
thought of food safety never seems to occur to them but they realize that
their ice cream could melt.
 
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:11:59 -0800, "Julie Bove"
wrote:

Wow.

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"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
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We've had several power outages this winter. I keep my beverages in the
garage during the winter, with the exception of things that should be
refrigerated. I know the garage is cold but it could potentially be at an
unsafe temp. for anything that should be refrigerated. It is fine though
for cans of soda, bottles of water or boxes of juice.

The rule we have when the power goes out is that you do not open the
refrigerator door. Or the freezer door. Now if a meal time rolls around
and if for some reason we have to get something out, we do it as quickly as
possible. Get just those one or two items and no looking around for other
stuff to eat.

We didn't have any spoiled food.
 
"sf" wrote in message
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I liked it when I was a kid. I don't really mind doing it so much if I am
alone. But if I have my daughter or husband along, things always seem to
get messed up. I wind up not getting things I intended to get because they
rush me. And then of course all this crap I don't need because they wanted
it.
 
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:50:20 -0500, Cheryl
wrote:


Grocery stores accommodate almost every part of grocery shopping these
days. They have motorized sit-carts with a basket in front and I've
seen store employees with a shopping list in hand filling orders so I
bet your store will shop for you if you inquired. They'll even put
your groceries in the car for you. The stores I frequent ask every
time, which is nice because some people who need the service are not
visually apparent. The only thing they don't do (at least around
here) is follow you home and put your groceries away.
http://www.ada.gov/reachingout/lesson11.htm

If you're like me, you want to pick out produce and maybe meat... but
why not let store employees get everything else for you?


Sounds awful. I don't know what's causing it, but I will assume it's
chronic. Have you looked into finding a pain management doctor?
http://www.webmd.com/pain-management/doctors-who-treat-pain

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"phaeton" wrote in message
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On Feb 28, 9:07 am, I_am_Tosk wrote:

I don't live in the tropics, but my apartment is generally 75 degrees
all the time, and when I opened the fridge, everything was at room
temperature. My fridge is newer, but not the most expensive model,
and probably isn't well insulated (it runs all the time, hence).

My lunchmeat was slimy looking, the butter was melting all over the
place and the milk (that I had just bought and opened that morning)
failed the sniff test. There are a few things that smelled a bit
'off' when i opened them up too.


Sounds like your fridge isn't running well if it is running all the time and
the temperature rose that much in 6 hours. You may have the thermostat set
too high. Or you may have a major leak. Put a thermometer in the fridge
and see if the temperature is between 34 and 38F. Anything lower than 40 is
good. You could have a refrigerant leak which would explain the motor
running all the time. Modern fridges don't run all that much compared to
the old designs.

Paul
 
On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:46:07 -0800, "Julie Bove"
wrote:


Aha, okay. I understand. Fortunately, hubby was responsible for
shopping for so many years he's pretty good at it. When I let him
shop with me, he gets the nonfoods (the boring repetitive stuff) while
I shop for food. He eats more bread than I do, so he gets to pick
that.

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Julie Bove wrote:


Yes, while I don't necessarily agree with statements that 24 hours
is okay for a refrigerator power outage, I'm perfectly okay with
9 hours or maybe 12 hours.

There are exceptions, such as you just placed a warmish pot of food
into the refrigerator and then the power went out.

Steve
 
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[email protected] says...


After re-reading my post I see it should have not been made... I don't
think I meant what it sounds like, but either way, I apologize to the
original poster, should have kept my opinion to myself on this one...

Scotty
 
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