AndiGravity
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...of irrelevant? What I mean is if God's all-powerful, then no matter what system God picked, it would work simply because he decided it was going to, yes? At that point, doesn't the idea of insisting that the system must be intelligently designed because it all functions kind of collapse in on itself?
Of course it works. There isn't a single possible scenario you can think of that wouldn't work when you put an omnipotent being in charge of it. Gravity could pull things sideways and water could nucleate into elephants, and we'd still think it was a perfectly natural, logical system and praise God for his obvious wisdom in making water clump together to rain elephants rather than something stupid like millions of little drops.
Suggesting that the system we live in was intelligently designed because it's so intricate and works so seamlessly is to suggest there are systems even God couldn't make work... or to put it another way, it's suggesting that before God imposed his will on us, a larger system imposed its will on him. At best, that makes him like us: a willful agent that can manipulate the system to the certain limited extent that it will allow itself to be manipulated and no further.
Suggesting that all things are possible with God is to suggest that any and all systems are equally functional, which completely negates the need for any intelligent agent to design the system in the first place, as any random parts and principles jumbled together will end up working just fine.
So, why assume the fact our Universe functions is evidence of a purposeful design at that point?
Of course it works. There isn't a single possible scenario you can think of that wouldn't work when you put an omnipotent being in charge of it. Gravity could pull things sideways and water could nucleate into elephants, and we'd still think it was a perfectly natural, logical system and praise God for his obvious wisdom in making water clump together to rain elephants rather than something stupid like millions of little drops.
Suggesting that the system we live in was intelligently designed because it's so intricate and works so seamlessly is to suggest there are systems even God couldn't make work... or to put it another way, it's suggesting that before God imposed his will on us, a larger system imposed its will on him. At best, that makes him like us: a willful agent that can manipulate the system to the certain limited extent that it will allow itself to be manipulated and no further.
Suggesting that all things are possible with God is to suggest that any and all systems are equally functional, which completely negates the need for any intelligent agent to design the system in the first place, as any random parts and principles jumbled together will end up working just fine.
So, why assume the fact our Universe functions is evidence of a purposeful design at that point?