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So, over here at this time of the year the sun rises about 10am and sets at 5-6pm. I don't get alot of suntime and I love the sun, I also think I need it to get the D-vitamin and positivness...Well anyways... Recently because of my sleep problem, I've been very tired all the time. It's not that I don't sleep, it's that I sleep from 5am-1pm, I really try not to sleep at day time, but sometimes I just fall asleep. Then again with my migraine I try to sleep it away(from 10-12hours I can sleep at tops), when I just can't sleep anymore I have to be awake with it. Because I've had it alot recently, it's kind of hard to set the sleep rutine straight.

But my real problem is, that I've been very down, negative, depressed, I don't feel like trying to do anything because I'll just get migraine anyways. I really try to be positive and not to let migraine rule my life. But it's just so hard sometimes because it's very exhausting. Also, if I've missed school or something because of migraine I don't feel like I deserve to have a good time with my friends, because I'm so afraid that It'll be alot of backtalking. I'm almost all the time tired, I have to force myself to do stuff, stay awake, clean the house, etc.. There are rare moment when I'm energetic but it's often at the wrong time of the hour, so then I just have to ride it out..

I'm really out of ideas, I've tried being this It's going to be alright! "happy happy joy joy!" but that doesnt work when I wake up with a migraine and can't sleep so I just ghost around the apartment going "eh.." to whatever William says. When I don't have a migraine and maybe have a energitic spur I clean, or whatever needs to be done, but these moments come very seldom. I try to take the vitamins and fish oil capsules(sp?)(supposedly good for the memory), but I usually forget them.. I'm always thinking of "tomorrow I'll get up and do that and that and that", and thadaaa! I get a migraine, fuckin A.


So should I start munchin D-vitamins? talk with a doctor? have my boyfriend to dump me outside when the sun rises and not let me in before the sun sets?

I don't really like typing this, because I know you people have some really real problems. But, I oughta get it out there and it's kind of hard to get an answer from livejournal.. :happysad:
 
It is a real problem. Excessive daytime tiredness massively affects performance in many areas, and can be a safety issue if you drive.

Migraines and eternal sleepiness were the symptoms I went to the neurologist with, he prescribed a sleep study, and now I'm a diagnosed narcoleptic. With the treatments I am receiving, I am doing a lot better. But you knew that part already.

Might be something to look into. If you need more info I'll be around tonight to talk.
 
Maybe you need to occupy your time, find some kind of hobby or a sport you like a lot. Go out of the house as much as you can even If you feel tired. I guess this kind of "tiredness" (lol fatigue) comes from the fact that you are in some kind of weird cycle and spiriling downwards, you have to break the cycle.

Force yourself to go out, shopping or walking or whatever that keeps you occupied a bit so you can forget your migrain and that tires you in the good way (sports/dance etc). And even if you can't get out of the house, find something to do, reading, knitting, doing puzzles.

Because If you do nothing, at night you are not really tired you feel like your body doesn't need rest, then you can't sleep and the cycles begins again.

Anyhow hang on! :) Don't let it ruin or rule your life :)
 
Over here in the states, they put vitamins A & D into milk. I would also try to find a cure/help/medication that will deal with your migraines before you try and figure out what's going on with your sleep pattern.

You already admit that it's whacked out because of your migraines, so wouldn't it be logical to fix those first, and then work on the sleep issues?
 
Have your doctor look at your nasal passages too, that might be a MAJOR cause in your migraines.


SRSLY. My mother hasn't had any migraines in over ten years and she used to get them all the time.

If you don't have teh polyps in teh nosey, then see a neurologist like Dray said.
 
Might sound a little weird, but this is something that helped fix my migrains. I take a realy hot shower when I get up, one when I get off work, and again before I go to bed. My migrains are from my sinuses (can't spell right now, sorry) and doing this has taken them from 5 times a week to once a month.

Has also helped my sleeping.

As for the big D, well, have you considered a sun lamp?
 
Might be a number of things. Your lack of ability to sleep might be caused by inactivity during the day. The migraine might just be a muscle tension headache due to tossing and turning at night or it could be stress induced. Also, it might be a allergic reaction to something seasonal around there or even a environmental antagonist like dust, smoke or mold. Take you sexy ass outside and wear yourself out physically.... take that however you want. You will probably sleep better. Also try staying somewhere else for a couple days to see if it is something in the house that is causing them.
 
Ideas you've probably already heard, but just in case:
  • High calories can make yuo sleepy. Eat something with a lot of calories 1-2 hours before going to bed.
  • MSG also makes you sleepy. 1-2 hours before bed. Eat.
  • Warm milk has tryptophan in it. Cold milk does, too, but tryptophan is activated by warmth. It's not a lot, but drink it with your meal.
  • Excercize throughout the day will increase your tiredness.
  • Avoid fluorescent bulbs 4 hours before bed time. Studies show these cause subtle irritations that can affect your sleep.
  • Start listening to relaxing music at least 30 minutes before bed. Make sure the melodies have a slow tempo and do not have many sfortzandos, crescendos, or high notes. I recommend making a CD for your radio or making a special music list on your MP3.
  • Start a "pre-sleeping routine". Reading a nice book, the newspaper, or some other task that's not really active allows your brain to wind down. Do this same thing every night. Your brain will train itself.
  • No TV or computer 1 hour before bed. Active dynamic changes on such screens keeps the brain active and hinders REM.
  • No chores or other activities of such 1 hour before bed. It can wait tomorrow. ;)
  • Keep your bedroom's pruposes only for sleep and sex. This is part of mental association.
  • No sweets or caffiene 3 hours before bed. Officially, it's thiry minutes, but I find sometimes with products with sugars/caffienes and high fats make me more active for much longer.
  • Stretches before bed (just basic stretches like pulling your arms up, yawning, touch-your-toes) helps muscles relax. But if you do this, only do a couple and not too much.
  • Keep a regular bed time and awake time. Avoid staying up late constantly or sleeping in. These can mess with your circadian rhythms.
Hope this helps!
 
Stardust, I'm sharing your problem. I have some solutions I'd go for, if I can't fix this by myself in a few days.

First of all, it's called "kaamosmasennus" or polar depression in English meaning polar nights, not polar-polar). It is very very normal when getting nearer the arctic circle.

for the sleeping:

solution a) buy a bright-light lamp. They really do help. They're costly, especially for a student but they do pay themselves off in the long run.

solution b) eat oranges and other fruits and drink milk as calcium helps the vitamins to absorb better.

solution c) melatonine. Melatonine is transmitter that changes it's metabolism according to the amount of light. It makes the day-night routine and is the first things to go awall when a mental stress or disorder starts to check in. Alone it only adds, according to a recent study, approximately 9 minutes of sleep per day, but when combined to other approaches it actually is thought to be useful. Placebo? who knows nor cares.

solution d) get out, work out, excercise and socialize.

It is really hard when the sun comes up, hides behind the clouds and goes down before the day has even actually begun. Soon it won't even show itself. So if these things don't help go talk to a nurse or a psychologist or some other professional who can give you other tips (mindfulness, breathing exercises, time-control etc.) The winter is way too beautiful to be missed lying in bed miserably :)

I'll hold my thumbs for you
 
Thanks alot guys for the advice! :hug2: I'm going to try these all kinds of things :)

oh and Bnccoder, I have several migraine allergies:
- real vanilla, the smell and eating it
- mold, alot of mold really hits me like a brick if I go near it.
- Strong light a long time, direct summersun light(80% of the summer I wear sunglasses)
- jumping up and down, feels like the brain hits the skull, if I ignore it I get a migraine
- Some MSA, when eating it ALOT, otherwise I just feel the arteries bloating and shrinking in my head, it feels rather strange.
- Really sweet smells
- Thick air, makes it hard for me to breath, but this only applies if I already have a slight migraine
- blue cheese, yuckie cheese.
- Stress over a long time period, makes tensions to my neck/shoulders which then get a hard time pumping the blood to the brain= migraine.
- Hard workouts, where I sweat out all my water+salt.
- I am almost constantly thirsty, if I don't drink atleast 2litres I get a migraine(this usually applies at summertime)
- beer, ciders, redwine, white wine
...That should cover it :happysad:
 

 Melatonin is produced naturally in the body and the production is inhibited by bright lights. This is why cooperate offices use floresent lights in addition to being energy efficient it also helps to keep the employees awake and aleart. Try to avoid bright lights before bedtime.

Also try adding a little more folic acid to your diet. They put it in prenatals to decrease the risk of birth defects and aid in the absorbtion of vitamins and minerals. Be careful which ones you choose though if you decide to take prenatals because some also contain hormones and I doubt you want to start lactating. Melatonin and Folic acid are both availible in individual suppliments.



Dehydration and unbalanced electrolytes can also be triggers for migraines. Try Gatoraide and try to avoid duieretics.
 
Oh, I'm trying to avoid this diu..thingys.

Slight update, I got betablockers(I know I know, old people medicine) today so I'm going to try that for a while now. But the downside is it makes me drowsy maybe a week or two before I'm used to the drugs(I'm not allowed to drive until I know for sure how slow the medicine make me), I might get nightmares(whoopdefuckingdoo). But, I hope they'll help and I'll be on my way to my old self :D
 
No I haven't, but I have a bunch of migraine medicins, that are to be taken before the migraine. But I raarely have an aura so I can rarely take such medicines.

But I am on Miranax and Ketorin for when I get an attack.
 
Imitrix can be taken at the first onset of a migraine and can work even after it has already started. Basically they have you on aleve and another OTC pain killer. That really isn't much for a migraine.
 
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