Sin City on BBC2 tonight

Or maybe he's shrewd and knows that there's a huge adolescent market for that sort of comic. By satisfying it he's going to make a lot more money.
 
How significant are the changes on the new DVD? In 'DVD Review' they always go on about how the standard R2 version is a waste of space compared to the 2 disc US R1 version, but the back of the case says that the film is the exact same length:confused:
 
Very significant. There's not much new stuff, but it's basically the film cut up (and with a few scenes added) to make it into three, completely seperate, short films (and a teeeeeensy one). These are now pretty much exactly as they appear in the comic books.
 
I was forced to watch this by the boyfriend when it came out on DVD and I just couldn't believe it could get a certificate for release.

Brutal, desolate and devoid of soul, I was physically sick after watching what could pretty much be described as "snuff".
 
I really enjoyed it as it's rare to see a film with a visual style that is refreshingly brand new.
I disagree slightly with some of the comments regarding Miller's portrayal of women in the film. Yes, a lot of them are portrayed as prostitutes, but mostly they are depicted as strong characters, much stronger than their male counterparts. I didn't really see any female victims, if anything they possessed the mental and physical strength equal, if not better than the men.
 
Goldie was a murder victim and prostitute. Nancy was a child molestation/kidnap victim turned stripper. Lucille was mutilated and then murdered. Every other female speaking part is a prostitute. Strong or otherwise, the women are either victims or prostitutes or both.
 
"Snuff"? Are you serious? It's nothing like a snuff movie. "Snuff" movies involve REAL death(s) and are sickening, but Sin City is scripted and acted. I fail to see how you can call it a snuff movie:confused:

And as for the certificate, i have seen much more violent films than Sin City, you obviously lead a sheltered life when it comes to films (no offense).
 
I agree that a lot of them were prostitutes but the setting for the film was SIN city. What about Miho? She saved Dwight's life. Nancy was strong as she didn't scream when Yellow bastard kidnapped her and she escaped alive. Wendy (Goldie's sister) wasn't a victim.
Almost all of the men die; Marv, Jacky Boy, Hartigan; whereas a lot of the women survive. Although the women portray prostitutes, do you still think there are portrayed solely as victims? Surely the fact that a lot of the men die also makes them victims, no?
 
Not in the slightest. I said that Miller's characters are usually either victims or prostitutes (occasionally, but rarely, both). I'm not doubting that the characters are strong women - they are. But they are usually either prostitutes, or they get killed. That tendency (which continues through all his SS books, not just those used in the film) is kinda uncomfortable-making.Ahem... Technically, I got around that notable exception when I said

:o;)
 
It was never made clear one way or the other as far as I know. She certainly lived with the hookers in Old Town, so she could either have been a prostitute too, or just hired protection for them.
 
Oh, I've seen violent films, just most of them (especially horror films) tend to be obviously designed as entertainment.

Sin City, on the other hand, seems to be nothing more than a straight, bleak presentation of death and gore.

I failed to identify or empathise with any of the characters, and to be honest, I don't think any of them had any good or redeeming features. The portrayal of women - in particular - hit hard, and I spent most of the film in shock.

That people somehow take enjoyment from watching such base imagery baffles me, and I think it's fair to equate it to snuff, as you are deriving pleasure from brutality.
 
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