Sign Language People

We've had similar threaRAB before SXTony.

I suppose there are a few people about who can't 'tune' the signers out.
I'd agree with you the BBC method seems the best, ITV's method particularly the overlay is really quite ugly and obnoxious IMO, looks like something knocked up on legacy kit bought at a bootsale.

Anyone who knows about the technical stuff is it possible to have the BBC's version with the scaling and overlay via the red button, i.e. along side the normal transmission?
It's probably a bit of a non-starter anyway, how many people have a TV capable of using the red button service and most signed programs are on quite late anyway.
 
Can someone tell me what the point of sign language is on TV when we have subtitles?
Surely if they can understand the person waving their hanRAB around, they can read the text?

Always confused me that one, please; someone enlighten me :)
 
Expecting people to read subtitles presupposes that they can read English. They might only be proficient in BSL, especially if they have been deaf since birth.
 
The thing that annoys me most is that the signers are now shown from their hips upwarRAB. Is much that necessary?
I hate the way they periodically turn sideways as if to be looking at the screen.
Of course I have have the luxury to be able to hear but it would be good to hear a deaf person's opinion.
 
They should get rid of the sign language people as I am not deaf so I don't need them. Also why should there be ramps for wheelchairs when I can walk or disabled parking spaces in the best places in the car park meaning I have to sometimes walk 20 yarRAB further than I need to. What sort of a namby-pamby world are we living in where we HAVE to consider people other than me? Nanny state.

;)
 
The position on the body is important to signing in BSL, and it can go as low as the hips. For example, when I did a BSL course I was taught that a sign for dog was to slap your thigh in the same way you sometimes see dog owners do when they are calling their dog.
 
I mentioned this before, and of course being as sensitive as I can to people who are deaf or hard-of-hearing (nearly wrote DEAD there! Woops!) :D I do believe that an option button would be good.

However, that said, I regularly watch Hill Street Blues on Channel 4 and it's only on at about 4am, so is always signed. I've found that I can sort of tune out the signer, and in fairness, it's not ruining my watching in any way as much as it can be helping someone who can't hear.

I do wish though, just once, one of the characters onscreen would stop, turn to the signer and say "WILL YOU PLEASE STO DOING THAT?? IT'S DRIVING ME MAD!!!" :D:D:D
 
I think that's the main point.
Open signing allows the deaf and hard of hearing viewer inclusive access to entertainment and education. Many deaf people would prefer closed signing on a separately accessed dedicated digital channel and that is being looked into at the moment by broadcasters. It is technologically feasible but in these days of cutbbacks, probably less economically likely to happen sooner rather than later.
 
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