Shoulder surgery again?

Bat-te-ry

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I had rotator cuff surgery a little over 5 years ago and I am now in the seat to have it done again. I have a consultation on the 7th to possibly set a date after I ask the doctor a few questions.

Here is my question to you guys:

This will be my second surgery on the same shoulder. Has anyone had this done before and if so, what are the chances the problems I have re ocurring?

Currently I have a partially torn rotator cuff, fluid in my shoulder, tendonitis and arthritis. I have pretty decent range of motion in it but I am tired of the constant pain. It wakes me up in the middle of the night and I get dull to severe aches in it through out the day. If I move my arm in certain ways I get a sharp shooting pain and poping in my shoulder. Sometimes the pain shoots down the top of my forearm into my wrist..... UGH

I prefer to take ibuprofren as it is not habit forming but they just aren't cutting it for me. I have gotten prescriptions for pain medicine in the past but am afraid (nor can I afford to keep going to the doctor) to keep asking for them w/o asking for a permanant cure.

So, if anyone has had multiple surgeries on the same shoulder or had the same symptons please give me some advise!

Thank you
 
just what exactly was fixed the last time you had the rotator repair done,the very same area or something else? its just kind of odd to have that very same area tear twice after repair,thats all. unless you were doing the very same things that tore that tendon to begin with,i really have never heard of anyone having to go thru that repair hell twice. i went thru this last feb myself(it was by far one of the most extremely painful surgeries/post op i have ever had,and that is six surgeries). i needed about five different things fixed or cleared out. i tore my supraspinatus completley and partially tore that tendon that runs under it?

so i am assuming you already had the MRI if you actually know about the tears then? did you go thru the very comprehensive hands on part of your PT the last time? this was REALLY needed in order for me to just get back all my ROMS. without it,i know i would not be doing as well as i am now with good ROM back again. just knowing whether or not this is the very same tendon you tore last time would help. what does your ortho have to say about this current situation? FB
 
tossthepickle, i can sorta relate. I feel for you. I had shoulder surgery about seven years ago for bursitis and bone spurs and i was great until March of 08 when i fell on my left side and i could not move my arm out to the side and went to the ER and had exrays only for them to say nothing severe. I happened to get into a Rheumatologist shortly before who gave me steriod injections to get rid of pain for a long time. Well about a months ago or so i lifted what o thought was not a very heavy box and ever since it has gone down hill to the point of not being able to lift my arm at all and getting the shooting pains to my elbow. I got into my dr. just this week and she said i don't know what you did but it seems to be your cuff and it;s freezing up so i'm scheduled for a shoulder MRI on the 6th ugh. I have already been warned before replying that it hurts like he^^ to have the surgery if needed. Do they neccessarily do surgery or only if they find a tear? I am struggling with the fact thinking they should have done the MRI that day and if it would have changes anything now! Talk soon
Monkey
 
Feelbad:

The first time I tore my rotator cuff it was only a partial tear. It was located along the front portion. My dr. says alot of my symptoms as a result of the first surgery ie. the fluid in my shoulder, tendonitis and arthritis. Currently the back half of my rotator cuff is torn. Yes I have had both MRI and x ray's. Before my dr. showed me the pictures he asked where it hurt. Ironically at the time I was getting sharp pains in the front of my shoulder again. Where I pointed was where my dr. seen what he called an "abnormality". This was a dark spot he couldn't tell what it was but was guessing it was from my first surgey.

All this leads me to Monkey5:

Yes the surgery is painfull and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Every time you breath that shoulder moves and hurts. However, I was talking w/ a friend of mines husband who recently had rotator cuff surgery and was told about what he called a "C Block". This basically was a nerve blocker that numbed his whole arm and almost all the pain and made it alot easier on him so it is reassuring to know that strides are being made.

A joint response for both of you would be NO, I did not complete my PT. I am a very upset w/ my self about this as most of my problems now could have been avoided more than likely. I can promise you this.... No matter how strong I feel I WILL complete PT this time.
 
god i soo feel for both of you. that PT REALLY was the most crucial part for me or i KNOW i would not be able to have gotten ROMS back like i have right now. it has been many many months actally just becasue i have some other pretty severe medical issues going on too. my PT does myofascial release and another therpy called craniosacral therepy too. these two therepies really were key for me and still are just to maintain mobility. its kind of a long road back with this particular surgery since the rotator cuff area/joint is the biggest most mobile and pretty complex joint we have in our bodies. soo many tendons and other stuff in there that can become worn out or injured and boy do you feel it then. i still have some residual bone pain from mine kind of in that bicep area that is just kind of there? luckily mytherepist is really amazing and has helped mein ALOT of ways with the alot of my crap.

ya know,my rotator surgery was actually done 'awake"?since i had some spontaneously firing jaw pain going on from the nerve damage i have from spinalcord injury,the anesthesiologist did not want to even try and intubate me as he said he could casue things to become much worse if he accidently hit something in my mouth. so they did that full scalene block(it goes right from the side of the neck on that surgical side and down from there,dead wieght is what you feel once it kicks in) instead and loaded me up with fent and versed and it went great for me actually. that full scalene bock just is very solid blocking that you feel absolutely nothing when its done(i just dozed off and slept thru my surgery). you also feel sooo much better post op and not groggy or with that sore throat from that tube you normally have? i didn't have to spend any time in the post op recovery area either,just took me right up to my room. i had to stay in hosp for pain control just becasue i AM a mess.

the anesthesiologist can be your very best friend in the surgical post op dept too. like you mentioned THP,you can have continuous anesthesia directed right into that area with a little bit of tubing they would place in there while they do the surgery. it just keeps everything numb for a much longer period of time. one huge thing that really helped me tons and another woman here who just happened to be going thru this at the very same time is that continuous passive motion(CPM) chair? this is where you just strap your arm onto the handle thingy in front while you sit in this chair(they do deliver this thing to your home to use daily)and it moves your joint for you without using ANY tendon or muscle at all(you also do those wonderful pendulem excercises too). it helps tons in geting that joint moving as soon as possible,but very very slowly. you just spend a few half hour sessions per day in it during the like,first fifteen days or something? i cannot remeber for certain,you just have to meet a certain degree level,then you can call them to pick up that chair. that is right around when you would start the hands on PT with a good therepist from there. it helps alot tho and i would highly recommend this to anyone who is going to be having any level of rotator repair done. it just helps that much in getting things going again in that very important joint. just some helpful suggestions for you.

monkey, you may not actually have a frozen area per se inthe real sense of what an actual "frozen' joint actually is. you probably have a full tear in that supraspinatus tendon and that alone would keep you from just being able to lift up anything past a certain point. that is exactly where i was at before my surgery too. i didn't realize just how bad the wear and tear damage actually was in my rotator and that joint area til my MRI was done. an x ray by the way will not actually show anything BUT bone and not the tendon or muscle where the damage actually is located. you NEED that MRI done to see that. glad they have that ordered for you. that will give you solid info. what actually casued that last of my tendon to tear was very simple actually. i just went to lift up my purse from the top of my fridge one morning and in mid 'pull' it just stopped and i felt this horrid pain in my arm and along the clavicle area? really ugly there for a while. i went to my primary and could not run thru the ROMS like i should have so he sent me for that MRI. i had no clue it was that bad til that film showed it. so that "freezing up" thing could just possibly be the level of tendon damage alone too. when the tendons are torn,they don't adduct or abduct correctly anymore since there is not connection anymore,ya know what i mean? you will just have to wait and see what shows up inthat MRI. hopefully its notthat bad and be repaired without being too overly invasive. in some cases,they can do it all with just a totally arthoscopic approach and not a bigger incision like i have. but despite the post op crap,i am really really glad i did it. its just one thing you have to simply deal with and get thru to just have that shoulder feel better and become more useful again,ya know? my pain levels pre op were really bad some days compared to what i have now.

i wish you both luck and please keep me posted as to how things are going. and DO ask your surgeons about using that CPM chair,it REALLY makes a huge difference in alot of ways,even the pain. FB
 
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