Should we invade Mexico and bomb Mexico City?

NO, both sides need to put down their weapons. Israel needs to LEAVE the lands they occupy and sign peace agreements with the surrounding countries. There have been several offers from Syria for peace agreements and all Israel has to do is leave the Golan heights, but they refuse.

The stated objective of Hezbollah is to remove the Israeli occupiers from the Sheba farms but Israel refuses. Same with Hamas in the Palestinian territories. So its more on Israel and less on the rest.
 
Hamas at the same time has claimed that it would only uphold "truces" with Israel but that there could never be a longterm peace. It's a terrorist organization that was elected.
 
HEZBOLLAH DOES NOT GIVE THE SHEBAA FARMS AS THEIR REASON FOR ATTACKING.

Why do you not comprehend this simple fact? Go listen to one of Nasrallah's speeches. This is not all because of that worthless peace of once Syrian land.

You have not answered my question at all. How are your above "solutions" going to stop Hezbollah, who are hellbent on nothing short of Israel's destruction, from attacking? You casually say "use a multinational peace force," which is what exactly Israel has been requesting all along. Unfortunately, nations aren't interested in sending their troops to the region indefinitely to babysit Hezbollah. Do not suggest 'solutions' which are not plausible.
 
Hamas has changed a lot?

So when they flat out state "we are not interested in peace" they are just joking around? They will really moderate now that they have been in power for a year, just like Hitler did, and Ahmadinejad has?

You are suggesting Israel invent some sort of peace process with itself, since the palestinians do not even negotiate with Israel. Then they should unilaterally institute it, despite promises from the other side that peace will not be reached. Then they should simply hope that Hamas suddely "changes a lot" after the past 50 years and daily speeches to the opposite, and decides to live in peace.... because you have a hunch they will
 
Has the lebanese government done it?

Hezbollah acts outside the jurisdiction of the lebanese army/government even though there are a few members of Hezbollah holding seats.

Not the same thing as saying the lebanese government abducted those Israeli soldiers.
 
There is no law that says in a conflcit both sides must be to blame. In this instance, it is 100% Hezbollah's responsibility and Israel deserves no condemnation. I present this to you factually over and over, and your response is always one in the same... talking about all the "innocents" that have died or blindly continuing to criticize Israel. It is you that is ignorant, sorry.
 
When you're discussing Israel and any other arab country... there is no other language but force. Don't be ignorant and shift all the blame to solely Israel, they are simply pushing back.
 
If condemning ANYONE or ANY GROUP that kills innocent civilians is ignorant, then I am guilty of ignorance. When Israel does it, its wrong, when Hamas does it, its wrong, when Hezbollah does it, its wrong.

Any college educated adult should know that. you refuse to see or understand this and its this refusal that will never allow you to work towards a peace agreement with anybody.
 
Shebaa Farms was Syrian before 1967 and using that as an excuse is a fucking joke. Even Nasrallah doesn't claim that a reason for this recent invasion, he ADMITS his group is aimed at the complete destruction of Israel and will settle for absolutely nothing less.

Once again, it is beyond absurd that you are attempting to argue a point that the leaders of these terrorist groups themselves openly admit is incorrect. Their mission is the annihilation of Israel and nothing less.
 
Anyway, shadi is truly one of the most blind and ignorant members of the anti-Israel crew on OT, and that is saying a lot.

I'm done bumping this thread, see you all in the next one.
 
They may be a legitimate government, but they are acting like terrorists. If you didnt know, they killed over 50 innocent civilians this morning including 37 children.

If that isnt a terrorist attack, then I dont know what is.
 
would the mislims/anti isralies in this thread please stop crying about innocent people being killed and remember

1972 at the Munich Olympics, cruise ship Achille Lauro, TWA flight 847, Pan Am Flight 103, US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and 9/11

it has never been the goal of islamic terrorists to fight soldiers...they would rather kill civilians for what ever reason. And yes lebenon is not a crazy fundamentalist country but they do sanction a carzy fundamentialist group. O WELL for them.
 
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