♥Emiiz WiiFey♥
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Should we have school uniform
Should we have school uniform? (ages 10-18 answer please)
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nihonnyanko152
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School uniforms help keep schools safer, at the cost of the student's individuality. Remember Franklin's quote about freedom and safety.
There is no correct answer as to what a public facility should look like or how it should behave.
Should speed limits be 30 or 60?
Should people be able to protest on a busy public road?
Should dogs be allowed in the local park?
These are questions that can not be answered except by opinion. And then what to do with opinion. Should majorities rule, or the opinions of experts. Or should they be decided by the transient whims of politicians, as public and personal interest grows and wanes, as special lobby groups grow and diminish.
Debate over such an issue can not prove a fact, it can merely persuade, by rhetoric and appeal to one emotion or another. As such it is a waste of time to even participate, unless you expect to gain something from the outcome.
Should speed limits be 30 or 60?
Should people be able to protest on a busy public road?
Should dogs be allowed in the local park?
These are questions that can not be answered except by opinion. And then what to do with opinion. Should majorities rule, or the opinions of experts. Or should they be decided by the transient whims of politicians, as public and personal interest grows and wanes, as special lobby groups grow and diminish.
Debate over such an issue can not prove a fact, it can merely persuade, by rhetoric and appeal to one emotion or another. As such it is a waste of time to even participate, unless you expect to gain something from the outcome.
Matilda Rose
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Very well put.
May I see your sources?
For you, and for those who find militaristic uniformity to be inclusive, it creates a sense of belonging. For people who prefer to be free-thinking, self-dependent individuals, it creates a feeling of absolute exclusivity and a feeling of being trapped because it makes you look just like everyone else, and there are many who would disagree with the theory that it brings people together. Teenagers, pre-teens, and children will still form cliques with people of similar interests and one or two major leaders (it's a pack instinct held by humans), and when that happens, there will still be people left out because they're "strange" or "creepy," and then where will they run? In that very act, you have the beginning form of a high school shooter.
And I attend a non-uniform school, and still focus thoroughly on my studies. Sure, many public schools don't necessarily have a higher GPA overall, but that is because public schools accommodate the people who's parents don't push them and it accommodates low-income families who don't expect anything but a fry-chef out of their children. Uniforms do not necessarily mean better grades because of motivation; more often, it means that the students are pushed by their parents because their parents are the people who made their own way to being as wealthy as they are to afford private school and a uniform for their children.
As for the "proven study," I would love to see your source, and "I heard it somewhere" is not viable in this. You might love your uniform, but many people find uniforms to be quite restrictive to the development of an individual personality with abilities that allow them to think freely. Many of the students who love their uniform schools do not thrive in college because they don't have that "immediate inclusion" that a uniform "provides." Students who have never been in a uniform school hate to lose the freedom of wearing their own clothes that they chose to wear for a stuffy uniform they must wear in order to avoid detention, suspension, or expulsion.
As for me, I'd take expulsion to wearing a school uniform.
I would also like to see his source. Public schools are actually as safe as uniform schools, and I'm sure there have been shootings in uniform schools, too. Don't forget that teenagers and children will not change their personality to be more accepting based on a piece of cloth. They don't normally do it in public schools, and they won't do it in uniform schools. I refer back to my "pack instinct" statement above.
May I see your sources?
For you, and for those who find militaristic uniformity to be inclusive, it creates a sense of belonging. For people who prefer to be free-thinking, self-dependent individuals, it creates a feeling of absolute exclusivity and a feeling of being trapped because it makes you look just like everyone else, and there are many who would disagree with the theory that it brings people together. Teenagers, pre-teens, and children will still form cliques with people of similar interests and one or two major leaders (it's a pack instinct held by humans), and when that happens, there will still be people left out because they're "strange" or "creepy," and then where will they run? In that very act, you have the beginning form of a high school shooter.
And I attend a non-uniform school, and still focus thoroughly on my studies. Sure, many public schools don't necessarily have a higher GPA overall, but that is because public schools accommodate the people who's parents don't push them and it accommodates low-income families who don't expect anything but a fry-chef out of their children. Uniforms do not necessarily mean better grades because of motivation; more often, it means that the students are pushed by their parents because their parents are the people who made their own way to being as wealthy as they are to afford private school and a uniform for their children.
As for the "proven study," I would love to see your source, and "I heard it somewhere" is not viable in this. You might love your uniform, but many people find uniforms to be quite restrictive to the development of an individual personality with abilities that allow them to think freely. Many of the students who love their uniform schools do not thrive in college because they don't have that "immediate inclusion" that a uniform "provides." Students who have never been in a uniform school hate to lose the freedom of wearing their own clothes that they chose to wear for a stuffy uniform they must wear in order to avoid detention, suspension, or expulsion.
As for me, I'd take expulsion to wearing a school uniform.
I would also like to see his source. Public schools are actually as safe as uniform schools, and I'm sure there have been shootings in uniform schools, too. Don't forget that teenagers and children will not change their personality to be more accepting based on a piece of cloth. They don't normally do it in public schools, and they won't do it in uniform schools. I refer back to my "pack instinct" statement above.
Questioned Mind
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Proven? Ha! Although numerous tests have been done on the subject, you can easily ask any kid how they would learn better in school: with itchy, ugly uniforms, or casual, everyday clothing?
yeah, living in California, most schools have uniform...and i really dont see the point in it...I wear it and all but one thing that ###### me off is we have to wear uniformed jackets..and its gettin a little chilly over here...and i have warmer jackets then what the school sells to us at 13 dollars per jacket...
but the main thing that gets to me is, they inforce it on the students..and most students that go to my school are bussed in from the other side of town and they are the ones that get away with it....the "locals" like me, do one thing wrong and we get suspended..-.-
my school is my home school...i live near it...and this year there are so much more people...its crazy! its bull :xcensored
and i think if we have to wear uniform...then so do the teachers cause we have to get up early and go to school, and so do they....they dont deserve to be out of uniform when us, younger people, have to be..or else >
but the main thing that gets to me is, they inforce it on the students..and most students that go to my school are bussed in from the other side of town and they are the ones that get away with it....the "locals" like me, do one thing wrong and we get suspended..-.-
my school is my home school...i live near it...and this year there are so much more people...its crazy! its bull :xcensored
and i think if we have to wear uniform...then so do the teachers cause we have to get up early and go to school, and so do they....they dont deserve to be out of uniform when us, younger people, have to be..or else >
i think wearing what you like within a limit of a dress code is more of a way of showing your personality. Especially for 13-18 year olRAB who want to be themselves. For anyone younger that's a tough call because kiRAB do want to be accepted by others. I just don't think they have to be exactly the same as eveyone else, thats why I dont think there should be uniforms.
Lol...
Anyway. School uniforms are a great thing, honestly. They are proven to improve students in many ways. Nobody is ever focused on what they are going to wear everyday; everyone wears the same thing. It creates a sense of pride and belonging, and often the closest ties in life come from schools like that. It causes the students to focus more on their academics and other goals rather than making their social life more important. I know because it is a proven study and I attend a uniform school myself, and I love it.
Anyway. School uniforms are a great thing, honestly. They are proven to improve students in many ways. Nobody is ever focused on what they are going to wear everyday; everyone wears the same thing. It creates a sense of pride and belonging, and often the closest ties in life come from schools like that. It causes the students to focus more on their academics and other goals rather than making their social life more important. I know because it is a proven study and I attend a uniform school myself, and I love it.
I just don't get it. I love school uniforms. So, here's my view, you have to wear a uniform to work at McDonald's right???? You have to wear a uniform anywhere you work, Best Buy, Walmart, Target right???.... come on people. Get over this B.S. about individualism being taken away from students. Uniforms are required in the work force. And by the way, has anyone bothered to listen to us, the students. I love my uniform, it's cute, it's versatile. Seriously people, uniforms are everywhere. Get over it & get into the future here.
For public schools, absolutely not. Schools are there to provide an education for children, not indoctrination and brainwashing, and the stomping out of individuality.
Fees are hard enough just to keep the kiRAB in school as it is, paying the tuition fees that are already in place. Uniform fees are unacceptable, especially in this economy.
Fees are hard enough just to keep the kiRAB in school as it is, paying the tuition fees that are already in place. Uniform fees are unacceptable, especially in this economy.
Mary Mando
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i am against school uniforms because if some someone is poor they cant afford nether.And gang colors the uniforms we wear are gang colors
johnsmithdd30
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you're obviously not a straight male over 12, which isn't a bad thing.
lol but anyway, im in the seventh grade, and
i hate dress code. i must respond by saying no, we should not have dress code. Obama wont do anything about this, and neither
will the ISD, but maybe we can. hooah. this i give to ISD: :xkill::xkill::xkill: this i now give to my main man who brought this up: :xgood::xgood::xgood:
i hate dress code. i must respond by saying no, we should not have dress code. Obama wont do anything about this, and neither
will the ISD, but maybe we can. hooah. this i give to ISD: :xkill::xkill::xkill: this i now give to my main man who brought this up: :xgood::xgood::xgood:
Actually, I am a 16 year old male who has been straight all my life, and my uniform happens to be a military uniform, so you can shove that comment up your ASS. You must not be very educated about such topics to suddenly assume something that stupid simply because I wear a uniform required by my academy, so why even post and make yourself look as stupid as you just did? In fact, why don't you go check out www.pioneeryouthcorps.com to see for yourself what the organization is all about.
bEtHaNy SiMoNs!~!!
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I live in Oregon. Why don't you explain to the forum as to how you arrived at your current uniform status and derogatory statements?
Yeah, well MLK also said, 'The time is always right to do what is right.' I belive that we should not have dress code. If we do, we are conformists and do not express our individuality. If we dont, then we are expressing ourselfs lagitimatly and succesfuly. AMEN TO THE JESUS! Yes, I am an American and you people who are not Americans think we take our freedoms for granted. We do, but we were born with it, and we know nothing diffrent. But the US goverment is oppressive once again. Lord Jesus Christ, give us strength to overcome the new obsticale. Amen.