Should the Iraqi Schedule be Public?

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Spanky...

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I'm sure however you feel about Iraq, you realize the importance of an orderly American withdrawal that leaves the region stabile and secure.

The trouble is that this is a long-term project, and it's an embarrassment to the Bush Adminstration to admit that when they had initially planned for a much shorter time-table.

Do you think it is in American interests to publically state a time-table which by the USA and its allies plan to withdraw from Iraq?

What political and practical considerations justify your position?
 
When will people learn that Germany and Japans cases are completely different then the current Iraqi case?Different age,different people,different in just about every way.

The US's record for bringing stability to a country they occupied is terrible.Iraq and Afghanistan's 'progress' has been weak.
 
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Seems to me there were *slight* sexual overtones to this comment, it was an utterly unecessary suggestion of homosexuality and reference to it in the negative. You didn't have to bring it up at all, but you did. And you didn't have to use such derogatory language either.
 
I don't know why that would be and embarrassment for President Bush...........We still have troops in Germany, Japan and South Korea originally put there by Democratic presidents as well as troops in Bosnia and Haiti put there by Clinton who said at the time it would be a year stay..........
 
Surely your making a bit much out of this no?Trust me there was no homophobic overtures,it was just another personal attack on VOR. ;)

BTW thats supposed to be 'iliberal' not 'lillberal'.
 
They won't. They prefer to rest on past victories from entirely different eras under entirely different circumstances. More longing for 'the good old days'.

Calling the democratization of Afghanistan merely weak is very generous.
 
However it seems that that is what the terorrists want. For us to get tired. For us to stop pursuing dreams,ideals, freedoms, and the people of Iraq one day being free, being able to have their kiRAB play on the street without suicude bombers coming up and blowing the chlildren away. Think about the Iraqi people suffering through al this. Think of the mothers who no longer have children to hold, the fathers no longer able to come home and see his wife waiting for him, for she is dead, the twins not having a mom or dad to hold and to kiss and to love. THAT is what we fight for, that is why we MUST continue the war because if we don't, then All the tyrants and thiefs and crooks will come in and tear the region apart. I do not like war but if innocent people are being murdered at the hanRAB of a tyrant and we are the richest,strongest nation in the world, can we just stand back and watch the inhuman actions continue?
 
If the cost of acting is higher than the cost of doing nothing, then it strikes me that we should stand by and watch carefully as people perpetrate heinous crimes. Likewise if the cost of acting is lower than the cost of doing nothing, then we should intervene to stop heinous crimes.

These costs would consist of whatever evil acts of our own we would be required to perform, in terms of enRAB and means.
 
Yes but to stand back and do nothing because of risks is not going to solve anything. Look ay D-day, if FDR and Churchill stood back and said" looks a little risky, but ofcource there may be a different way" is that of stupidity and cowardice.
 
Yeah the stability in Japan, Germany and South Korea is really terrible.... :rolleyes:




It took us 12 years to establish a democracy after the American Revolution.....
 
I'm not talking about standing back and merely assessing risk, but the assessment of risk in relation to cost - the expected value of the venture. It's not cowardice to refrain from action when that action will certainly make things worse.
 
Yes but what is Valor in your opinion? If we merely watch as a man is being beaten to death by 5 people and we (as in 2) see that it is a risk to attack them, yet may save the mans life what would you do? The Iraqi's need our help. They need a better infastructure schools hospitals ect. We need to help others even if the cost is higher than if we would have done nothing at all.
 
i have never seen evidence for this.
that US troops would be there for years was always implied. afterall, they were following the Germany/Japan rebuilding model.
 
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