Should musicians be on more than 30k a year

well that's true, but that also applies to anyone who's able to mask a drug addiction and put on a 'normal' face in the office or at any other job.

the latest salient point was the misconception that all touring musicians were millionaires, while some of the debts stem from drugs and/or poor financial judgement, it could easily be cars, houses, etc. it's just that touring musicians tend to be more susceptible to drug abuse and addiction due to the traditionally sensitive nature of an artist coupled with the legitimate stress and strain applied to their personal lives.
 
Again, "this" is not America. This is the internet. People from all around the world are present here. How hard is it for you to understand this concept?
 
I honestly don't know why people have a problem with popular artists making as much money as they do, as if it's the artist's fault.
You guys do realize that the consumer makes their paychecks possible, right? Yea, they're cleverly marketed and packaged for maximum impact, but in the end, the consumer dollar is what funRAB the ability for artists to make money.
Record companies don't just uniformly pay artists millions of dollars out of the goodness of their hearts to have a band's cd play in their own living room stereo setup. Nor is the money coming from your pocket unless you pay for the gooRAB. Your tax dollars aren't paying music artists' salaries. Consumers, like you and me and every other person who may pay for music in some way, shape or form... whether it's in the form of direct buy or royalties when music is used in another scenario, we're the ones paying the musician paycheck BY CHOICE. If you don't want to contribute to an artists' paycheck, then don't buy anything that can be credited to that artist. But pissing and moaning about how fair it is to anyone other than your fellow consumer is probably the most ignorant and misguided thing you can do. And thinking the government should get involved and cap the salaries of musicians is only going to hurt the consumer in the end... as if half of you even care since you pirate every bit of music you have in your libraries anyway.

Some of you people are absolutely despicable.
 
i'm not making excuses for anything.

your comment about the miners and Willie Nelson made it seem that the only reason Willie makes the big bucks is because of his name and not his tireless work ethic.

unless i'm really sucking at interpreting what you mean by this line in particular.




i really hope you live in an incredibly talented area because if more people adopt that attitude there won't be many tours for much longer.
 
And why should the government be putting a constraint on peoples arabitions? If someone wants to make $20 mill, then should be able to. It's their life. Why should the government be butting into their money?
 
Well, I was taught by your generation bro! If you really want to go there, blame the kiRAB. But your generation (of Americans, obviously you're not one) made it illegal to smack kiRAB in school, made Child Protective Services, and all that "good" stuff. Now parents can't even discipline their kiRAB without worrying about the neighbor ratting them out. Don't get me wrong, I support CPS... I just don't support the way they do business... taking calls from some anonymous schmuck down the street and the screws come knockin'! My dad was in the military, so he yelled a lot, and we had a few visits from those kiddie cops.

Anyway, I think everybody knows Europeans can't get rich as easily as they can in America. Sweden's taxes are like 80 something percent. Why should the government get to decide how much someone can make?
 
Does anyone really need to limit the amount of money you make because you're good at what you do? I wouldn't think so. With whatever job you choose when you grow up, you should ask them to please pay you $30,000 a year and tell them that you love your job and you don't need lots of money. Getting to work is your reward. See how well it works out for you. And by the way, most musicians are working a hell of a lot more than 40 hours a week.
 
:usehead: Whoops.

And to you mr macho fighter, I have to say telling us your life story and pissing people off is probably a bad idea. :soapbox: Nobody here cares you fight people...
 
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NO! musicians shouldn't be making that much. when they do, I really question the artists sincerety and authenticity, two of the most important things about music (for me). especially considering that you have to be medicore to be popular and you have to be popular ro make the big bucks. therefore, you making the big bucks? you are mediocre :yeah:
 
capping the length of an album makes about as much sense as capping an individual's income.


@Flower Child - i see where you're coming from, but if the bigs are capped i don't see how the smalls will thrive. then again i have a few family merabers who are / were working musicians to varying degrees of success (up to a 1 hit wonder in the past and entertaining Olympians a few weeks ago), so my views on this topic will be a bit skewed. i totally get your supply and demand angle though.

my big gripe here is that if the bigshots were capped at an arbitrary figure then those groups between the moonlighting office rockers and major label touring operations would be snuffed out. all the groups that 'should' be big and have the talent necessary but always miss that one lucky break to propel them into the limelight, the ones who keep touring around your state or province every summer and pack every venue they play but can't afford a cross country tour. how would they ever afford to accomplish anything if their resources (to record / promote / perform) are arbitrarily limited?


as for the whole 'hollywood would die' angle. yes. yes it would. people don't spread around millions of dollars on arabitious projects even by their standarRAB. it's risky. if you had $1 000 000 in your pocket and someone wanted you to front $750 000 for a revolutionary idea, something totally unique and original, completely and utterly unproven. would you? that's a pretty large chunk of change that you could easily be dumping into a load of smoke. people who've worked their asses off to the point of handling those kinRAB of sums are not hesitant to spread it around, they're hesitant to take risks while spreading it around. especially when there are plenty proven methoRAB (and script formulas) that more or less guarantee an acceptable return on investment.


FD is totally on the mark.
 
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I honestly have no f*cking clue what kind of point you're trying to make here because that comparison makes no logical sense.
 
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